Hallucination
Refugee
shart1780 said:The only serious problems Michael Moore sheds light on are dishonesty and obesity.
Not true. Well I gues that depends if you consider half truths dishonest or half honest. He is pretty heavy though.
shart1780 said:The only serious problems Michael Moore sheds light on are dishonesty and obesity.
shart1780 said:The only serious problems Michael Moore sheds light on are dishonesty and obesity.
Well the people who blindly follow Moore and belive everything he says are as dumb a those who blindly follow Bush and belive everything he says so I guess it evens out.shart1780 said:Half truths almost always decieve, and they definitely do in Moore's case. If he were interested in bettering America he would be more interested in presenting the entire truth. He's obviously pushing an agenda. And why does he have to decieve us anyways? He obviously feels that the truth will either hurt his position or we're too stupid to hear the whole truth.
Either way, people like Moore can only hurt the country.
shart1780 said:Half truths almost always decieve, and they definitely do in Moore's case. If he were interested in bettering America he would be more interested in presenting the entire truth. He's obviously pushing an agenda. And why does he have to decieve us anyways? He obviously feels that the truth will either hurt his position or we're too stupid to hear the whole truth.
Either way, people like Moore can only hurt the country.
Hallucination said:
Well the people who blindly follow Moore and belive everything he says are as dumb a those who blindly follow Bush and belive everything he says so I guess it evens out.
shart1780 said:
What's Bush have to do with it? Anyone who blindly follows anyone is dumb. Especially people who have proven themselves to be un-trustworthy, such as Moore. He cares more for his agenda than our country.
packcrush said:
And what is his agenda?
macphisto23 said:
Moore used every trick in the book and more for that documentary.
Yahweh said:Its something that the majority wont notice anyways infact you could barely hear the line the first time I watched it.
shart1780 said:
What's Bush have to do with it? Anyone who blindly follows anyone is dumb. Especially people who have proven themselves to be un-trustworthy, such as Moore. He cares more for his agenda than our country.
shart1780 said:I'm honestly not sure what he expects to gain from what he does. But he obviously cares about what he's trying to get across considering he spent millions on a documentary. My point is he's trying very hard to get us to believe him, and he's willing to lie to do so.
If his goal were to raise awareness the truth wouldn't scare him.
Hallucination said:It's a reference to humans and on this paticular occasion the humans living in America to put down your damn guns and start respecting one and other. I don't care who he was refering to he's right. Whether it's the looters, the soldiers, the mafia, the terrorists, the gangs, the random criminals who shoot for the sake of it. Just put the guns down is what he's saying.
Yahweh said:Its something that the majority wont notice anyways infact you could barely hear the line the first time I watched it.
VertigoGal said:I just think that if they really felt the need to condemn someone over this, it might as well be the gov't, not the people who were "looting" food, water, and clothing.
doctorwho said:
Yikes! I can't see how you got to this conclusion.
Haven't any of you read/heard the news? People who were stealing food/water and clothing can be forgiven. But that's not the only thing that was going on. People were stealing TV's and computers. Looting of all sorts was occurring. People were being raped - yes, raped - while in the SuperDome. Just recently, a Katrina victimized family took what few belongings they could salvage and brought them to the Boston area - only to have someone steal those items from them!! This is the America we are living in. When the tsunami struck the Indian Ocean last December, there were no reports of rape, theft and looting. But here in the grand ol' U.S., people are taking advantage whenever they can.
And THIS is what Bono's line meant.
But I guess it's just easier to blame the government - which does deserve blame - while turning a blind eye to how much harm people actually caused themselves (like shooting at rescuers ).
gherman said:Who fucking cares
Hallucination said:It's a reference to humans and on this paticular occasion the humans living in America to put down your damn guns and start respecting one and other. I don't care who he was refering to he's right. Whether it's the looters, the soldiers, the mafia, the terrorists, the gangs, the random criminals who shoot for the sake of it. Just put the guns down is what he's saying.
Yes, there were. There were also reports of children being stolen to be sex slaves.When the tsunami struck the Indian Ocean last December, there were no reports of rape, theft and looting.
shart1780 said:Half truths almost always decieve, and they definitely do in Moore's case. If he were interested in bettering America he would be more interested in presenting the entire truth. He's obviously pushing an agenda. And why does he have to decieve us anyways? He obviously feels that the truth will either hurt his position or we're too stupid to hear the whole truth.
Either way, people like Moore can only hurt the country.
david said:
The film shed light on the fact that in America at one time it was relatively easy to buy guns and ammunition at the chain of department stores called K-Mart.
The film touched upon the fact that the bullets from K-Mart were sold to the teens that went on a shooting rampage at Columbine High School in 1999.
VertigoGal said:
Okay...the majority of people were looting food, water, and clothing. A few people may have taken TVs the first day, when it appeared they would be spared total devastation, but that's about it. The guy(s) that raped someone? The crowd beat him/them to death. Dehydration often results in paranoia, sometimes meaning shooting at rescuers. It's common outside of this particular situation.
Of course there're a few bad elements in every situation, but there's no need to act like the people there are animals.
This situation is much different from the Asian tsunami, also.
So, I don't think Bono needs to come on and start making a big deal out of a few incidents, especially during a fund raiser for those very people, when the much larger problem lies with the government's incompetence handling the aftermath. It's that incompetence which lead to such a desperate situation 3 or 4 days after the fact.
Of course I don't really know what Bono was trying to say in the first place.
david said:when i first saw it i thought he said "k-martyrs"