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"Police in NYC..chased a boy thru the park..in a case of mistaken identity, put a bullet thru his heart
The Stones, "Heartbreaker"
The Stones, "Heartbreaker"
DaveC said:This is starting to sound like a definite suicide-by-cop incident.
http://us.cnn.com/2007/US/11/13/ny.shooting/index.html
Very bizarre.
dazzlingamy said:who ever said its hard to shoot someone in the arm or leg for a cop, well its their JOB. I'm sure how to handle a gun is of HIGH importance when they're walking around with guns and licence to shoot if they need to.
You don't NEED to shoot to kill. That is why we have a LEGAL SYSTEM to deal with offenders, not some cops who 'don't know how to shoot'
Give them training in it, a bullet to the leg is going to get them to stop, a bullet in the arm will make them drop the gun etc, lets not aim for the head or heart, because you know what, you're a man or a woman, you're not a fucking God and you don't have the right to take someone else life just because you wear a blue uniform and wow, did some training and can run that half a mile.
too much power.
DaveC said:You don't need to be an Olympic sharpshooter to hit someone in the leg from 20 feet. Especially not if there are 5 of you willing to pump 20 shots at somebody.
Gangbangers in Harlem with no training whatsoever could make that shot. Shit, I could probably make that shot.
You're acting like shooting a gun is some kind of magical skill that requires years and years of specialized training.
Someone can die from it, sure. But the likelihood of dying from being shot in the chest a half-dozen times is a whole fuckin' lot higher.
Bono's American Wife said:
Police officers are not trained to wound, they are trained to use deadly force when necessary. Right or wrong, you will never see a police officer shoot someone in the leg or arm, not because they aren't capable of it, but because their training and departmental rules direct them to use deadly force when they feel their life or the life a fellow officer is threatened.
There are a lot of badly trained cops out there Dave and a lot of cops who should probably not be patrolling the streets, but there are also a whole lot of very dedicated, honest cops who take their training very seriously and do the best job they can in some very scary situations.
And believe it or not, killing someone in the line of duty is a very traumatic experience for most cops, especially in a suicide by cop scenario or when the suspect turns out to be unarmed. They don't just walk away high-fiving each other saying "good job." Nightmares, flashbacks, guilt about the deceased person and his/her family, questioning their judgment, it all happens, which is why most departments require you to see a shrink before you are cleared for active duty again after a shooting.
I hope all of true facts come out in this case and if the officers are found to be in the wrong, I hope they are dealt with appropriately. But at this stage, I don't think any of us can really say what these cops should or should not have done in this situation.
Bono's American Wife said:
And believe it or not, killing someone in the line of duty is a very traumatic experience for most cops, especially in a suicide by cop scenario or when the suspect turns out to be unarmed. They don't just walk away high-fiving each other saying "good job." Nightmares, flashbacks, guilt about the deceased person and his/her family, questioning their judgment, it all happens, which is why most departments require you to see a shrink before you are cleared for active duty again after a shooting.
DaveC said:Gangbangers in Harlem
Headache in a Suitcase said:
not that it matters but harlem has become a relatively safe neighborhood. you'll find many more "gangbangers" in the bed-sty neighborhood where this incident occured than you will in harlem, or even out on long island.
Headache in a Suitcase said:
not that it matters but harlem has become a relatively safe neighborhood. you'll find many more "gangbangers" in the bed-sty neighborhood where this incident occured than you will in harlem, or even out on long island.