nbcrusader
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Thanks for sparing us the "worse"
JMScoopy said:
if i wanted to be a smartass, id've come up with something better than that.
LivLuvAndBootlegMusic said:
Why would believing in a god exclude someone from believing in evolution? I'm a Christian and believe in evolution
I didn't mind your original comment since the thread starter asked for personal opinions, which yours was, but this evolution comment lacks sense.
maycocksean said:
But, for those of you that know Hebrew, what do you make of Gen. 1:27 "in the image of God he created him, male and female he created them"
Could that imply that masculine and feminine together make up the totality of who God is? While definitely not orthodox Christianity (and I'm about as orthodox as they come, if you hadn't noticed), I've always wondered if there might be a feminine aspect to God.
maycocksean said:
But, for those of you that know Hebrew, what do you make of Gen. 1:27 "in the image of God he created him, male and female he created them"
Could that imply that masculine and feminine together make up the totality of who God is?
BonoVoxSupastar said:
Absolutely! I always find it hilarious when folks want to assign a gender to God.
tommyvill said:
It's referred to the mystery of giving life, of giving birth of a child...
It's love that really PRODUCE something...you see? someone said that having a child is the closest you can go to "help God in making a Miracle" and I'm sure that anyone who is father or mother here understand what I'm saying...you breakthru the conception of the ego and you get to start thinking as a "we", as "our"....
when a man loves a woman truly, and from their Love something is born....well you' re really in grace with God and He's with yo. He's thankful for what you've done for Him...
Other than the problems with the English "image" as a translation for tselem mentioned above, I personally wouldn't take this passage (in either language) to imply that the "male/female" clause is meant to modify the "image" clause, nor was I ever taught in Hebrew school to see it that way. Rather it's a separate and distinct assertion that both sexes were created at once, so as to enable fulfillment of the commandment mentioned in the immediately following verse: "be fertile and increase." Remember, Biblical Hebrew doesn't really use "sentences" or punctuation, so you have to be careful about projecting the somewhat arbitrary grammatical structures necessary for English translation onto it. Also keep in mind that Genesis 1 comes from a wholly different source than Genesis 2-3, where both the creation of sexes and the God's role in that are presented far more anthropomorphically.maycocksean said:But, for those of you that know Hebrew, what do you make of Gen. 1:27 "in the image of God he created him, male and female he created them"
BonosSaint said:Now, a further question. As a Christian, am I obligated to accept any other Biblical authority other than the Gospels--and even then, more than the teachings of Jesus? Are they not sufficient?
(Crusader may, as he has in the past, make the argument that if I do not accept the rest of the Bible, why accept the "red words"? And that's not a bad logical argument and I have no answer to that logically. So for the sake of discussion, assume I accept the "red words" on faith, but I do not believe that all of the Bible speaks with authority.)
I'm just curious as to what others believe.
BonosSaint said:I appreciate your articulate and thoughtful responses, both here and earlier in this thread.
Rono said:I have problems with god creating us in his image especialy when i think the god is ( supposed ) love. If god is love, why did he created hell ? Or did we created hell ?( because we like to punish people for what they do )
verte76 said:Have you ever read Dante's "Inferno"?
tommyvill said:they are because God, in order to mantain free will (that is the GREATEST gift we have since make us conscious or selfconscious and responsible for what we do, autonomous)
maycocksean said:
Agreed. But what kind of free will is there for those who are forced to roast in eternity in hell?
nbcrusader said:
One word: Jesus
maycocksean said:
No one should be a Christian because they are afraid of hell. And Christians should NEVER try scare people into faith through threatening them with hell. No relationship built on fear is sound or healthy, including a relationship with God.