bloodysunday972
War Child
well obviously the new tour ones will surface quick but as for older ones whether they be audio or vid do they turn up much anymore ?
Axver said:I'm totally failing to see what's wrong with torrenting and other forms of downloading online. Why wouldn't tapers want their work online for others to enjoy as well? I can't think of a single non-selfish motive. It's not as if they're missing out on any money or other proceeds by having it spread to the maximum amount of people.
the white flag said:it?s not about selfishness, as Axver wrongly suggests.
i love it when people respodn that they don?t have the money and don?t want to put forth the effort to invest in taping, yet they can afford a computer, blank media, and a cable modem connection.
Axver said:
From where I sit, all the reasons I can imagine why someone would not want their shows online stem from selfishness of some description or another - they want it for themselves, they want to keep it 'rare', and so on. Want to give me some reasons against torrenting? Really, it comes down to why you tape a show and why you give a copy to anyone else. I'd write more on my thoughts but I should be writing a mathematics assignment.
Chrisedge said:Let's not get the fact hidden in... most tapers don't have any issues with online trading. The few folks that do IEM/ALD stuff, of course do, but those aren't hosted on STG. (Well, one Mix was, and the guy that taped it bitched and he was slammed in the thread, as most folks outside of U2 circles don't get the whole hoarding thing)
Blue Room said:So the taper requested it not be done and it was anyway. I dont care if its an IEM, ALD, Audience whatever. It was done anyway without permission.
Blue Room said:I love the hoarding thing being thrown in also. So U2 tapers/traders are the only hoarders out there??? Let me be clear, is this what you are saying?? Because that is the biggest bunch of BS I think I have ever seen you post if that is what you are saying.
Between hoarding shows and leeching shows, we're coming across as one of the most selfish fanbases on the web thanks to (more than a few) bad apples.
Soulrock2 said:This debate has reached its all-time lowest in the topic about Scott Browns excellent 10-09-2003 Radiohead recording at STG.
And then people wonder why I stopped trading at a certain point... There is such an unhealthy climate and apart from the third party SHN'ing I also blame the the "holier than thou" attitude. Just read that thread and you'll know what I mean.
PUKE!!!
People bragging that there is a better DAT recording than Scotts but it will be hoarded due to all the leeching... Why say that? Why say that most excellent U2 tapes won't be spread? Why? It won't be the case. Even in the Radiohead community, who are constantly fighting about this issue, there are lotsa excellent tapes available through snail mail and online trading. There are lotsa tapers who will spread their tapes to the masses, one way (torrent) or another (1-1, with no ridiculous restriction rules).
So I completely agree with Chrisedge.
No, I never said that, I said the boards/groups I belong to (which have very serious tapers) all frown on this type of crap. I never said I knew all the tapers.So you know most or ALL of the tapers.
You know I have no problems with anyone and the way they want to share. I DO have a problem when the taper is unknown and someone else wants to ditate how I should share something. As if snail mail is the ONLY f'n approved way of sharing something. THAT is what my wink was about. Who is anyone (except the taper) to say, How I should share something?I guess you are saying that if a taper doesnt share your viewpoint they are the minority and/or are not serious.
Soulrock2 said:This debate has reached its all-time lowest in the topic about Scott Browns excellent 10-09-2003 Radiohead recording at STG.
huskies said:Some tapers wish to remain anonymous from the masses, and it's ludicrous to demand that they identify themselves to the STG or ElevaSHN or whatever moderators.