faithingrace
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God, I'm mid-30's and according to this I'm old, ugly, and undesirable. Going to slit wrists now.
The jackass who threw something at Bono during Sunday Bloody Sunday... Was that part of this "protest"? Because if it was then yeah. There's something wrong with that picture
antigone_ks said:
I think it was on the Chicago DVD that Paul McG said that these people had followed the tour around, and were *always* at the front of the heart, so they knew what was going to happen and it wasn't as spontaneous. For the filming, the band wanted people up front who could be surprised, and who could give the band that little push. According to Paul, that's why they used the lottery system on this tour.
PACulliton said:
And the third, and most spontaneous, was during "One" -- when a tremendous number of fans, including many of those who had not participated in the actual act of sitting down, formed a large circle in the back, literally creating a hole in our heart. It was kind of cheesy, but the symbolism was stunning and effective if nothing else.
sraphim said:btw I'm surprised Larry didn't do a thing about the whole situation, he's usually the one who cares about their fans....
pattip2000 said:
you are right. Bono, Adam and The Edge are such jerks
nikkyjade said:PACulliton:
you should be grateful that you get to 20-22 shows. PER TOUR!..........i have only ever been to one....ever.....and i know some people who would give anything to see them just once who havent yet
No notice was posted at the front of the line that said "usual G.A. procedures will not be followed tonight, so queue at your own risk." No message was posted at the band's website. Bono & U2's staff has access to the email addresses and cellphone numbers of several of the longtime/multi-show fans. And yet no attempt to communicate with us like adults, like human beings, LIKE PAYING CUSTOMERS, was made. Instead they made a decision to simply disrespect and manipulate. Period.
i can understand you would be annoyed if this happened to you....i would be extremely pissed off...........but i wouldnt stage a protest!!!
its a bit OTT if you ask me....
and like others would said.....would only ruin the experience for you and others
you should be grateful that you get to 20-22 shows. PER TOUR!
and i know some people who would give anything to see them just once who havent yet
and you even said yourself they had a sign on the GA line saying usuall GA proceedures would not be followed so queue at your own risk <<<<< did that not register? it may not specify but it means potential dissappointment
nikkyjade said:this is why i think that staging a protest is a little over the top...you get this wonderful opportunity to see one of the best bands in the world live...if not the best....and all people want to do is sit down in protest against the band, just because they didnt get a rail to lean on for the show.........a row 2 persons deep is bloody good
what do you want? a medal?
the fact you said "why should i be grateful" bothers me.....i paid for my ticket myself...but im still grateful for the opportunity to have seen them live....many havent
and you seem to be focusing on the fact the band are a business...
well done....but what about the music and the purpose of why you pay all this money to see them?
myself and a couple of my friends think that it is unfair that the band spend so much tour time in the US
....they have done about 100 shows over there and in Canada this tour.....Europe only got half of that......but we dont harp on about it
this is why i think that staging a protest is a little over the top...you get this wonderful opportunity to see one of the best bands in the world live...if not the best....and all people want to do is...
a row 2 persons deep is bloody good i think!
but to me it just seems a bit ungrateful
telling those who want to see them so badly...its not as simple to just say be more proactive about it
i queued for hours for both buying the tickets and outside the stadium before the show
I am a university student which means i have very little money as it is, nevermind to be spending it on travelling europe going to all different shows no matter how much of a loyal fan of the band I am or how much i love them.
i have a life which i cant just drop.....the band mean a lot to me....but so does my education
its great that you can get to so many shows.....but not everyone can do that
*Ally* said:
i think that PACuillon was trying to say that they protest was staged not just because those who queued ended up 2 rows deep, but because the band (and their employees) acted in a way that was perceived as disrespectful and manipulative (ie, lying to the fans who had lined up about why others were being let in early, not giving any advance notice about not honoring the GA line, etc).
i'm not supporting the protest or denouncing it- i wasn't there, but i've heard about it from friends who were. right now it would be easy for me to say that i never would have particpated, but frankly i don't know what i would have done had i been in their shoes.
I have two - almost three - degrees from top notch private schools, at two of which I've made the Dean's Honor List. You're not really insinuating that mine means any less than yours, are you?
Galeongirl said:the three shows were sold out in 20 minutes and with that my chance to see them, how can you blame me for that?
Galeongirl said:you americans get so fuckin many shows and we get very littlle! so you may be grateful that they are interested in america, and give you all these shows... they could also just call it its quits, since they don't have to do it for the money, and do only little gigs in ireland or europe... but No, they don't quit.. and America it still is!
\MalahideChick said:
Sigh... I live in the UK. I saw all 3 shows in the Amsterdam Arena. I bought tickets for one show via the U2.com presale. Then I just travelled over to Amsterdam and bought tickets for the other shows outside. Sometimes paying over face value of course. If you want something badly enough, you'll do it. If you didn't want it that bad don't attack others who did.
And you're attacking PA for that? Er... who's fault is it that they do so many American shows? Who's fault is it that they're more interested in the money they can rake in from playing 10 nights at Madison Square Garden than from playing more shows in France, or Holland, or Germany? I don't understand why fans attack other fans for choices the BAND MAKES.
MalahideChick said:
One last thing - digsy would you care to post an email address? I'd like to drop you a line.
Galeongirl said:\
and THEY DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE MONEY!
MalahideChick said:
Sigh... I live in the UK. I saw all 3 shows in the Amsterdam Arena. I bought tickets for one show via the U2.com presale. Then I just travelled over to Amsterdam and bought tickets for the other shows outside. Sometimes paying over face value of course. If you want something badly enough, you'll do it. If you didn't want it that bad don't attack others who did.
Sorry, I will make one point here - why should the UK fans have to fly to US/Europe to see the band - I was lucky to see 2 of the 4 gigs U2 played in England but I do understand why people get angry...
Esp when we hear the tickets to the second round of Boston gigs where almost being given away outside the venue!
Lisa
And you're attacking PA for that? Er... who's fault is it that they do so many American shows? Who's fault is it that they're more interested in the money they can rake in from playing 10 nights at Madison Square Garden than from playing more shows in France, or Holland, or Germany? I don't understand why fans attack other fans for choices the BAND MAKES.
SpaceOddity said:
And this is what really irks me about the GA lottery system. It makes sense that Paul/the band wanted "new faces" up front in the ellipse. What doesn't make sense is that during the Vertigo tour, the band (especially Bono) seemed to enjoy having the same people up front night after night, whether it be dancing with the same girls multiple times or continually interacting with specific fans. Contradiction, much?
*sofia* said:This thread has gone way too ugly to be in PLEBA..
U2FanPeter said:Couple questions for PA Cuillon:
-When do you consider some of the U2 followers "delusional"?
-If the band is so close to fans, why has Edge made remarks about "a caravan of fans following us to every gig", "I don't go to internet sites, since the fans are murderously critical" and Larry indirectly telling some to "Fuck Off"?
-If some fans were so, why didn't they do something that would really matter to a band member like giving them a bag unused tickets that were cut into pieces? Renounce fandom by selling collected memorabilia...etc.
-are any of the Boston Protests noticable on the "heart-cam" on the second disc of the 2001 DVD?
-were the fans brought into the front of the Heart for Boston young people or just people that hadn't seen many shows?
-How bad was Bos1 vs Bos2, as mentioned in the DVD bonus features?
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