Achtung Baby/ Zooropa remaster/ reissue - Part V/Five

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WTF, why the hell is the version of FTSD different in the box set?

Mind-boggling.


Yeah. I was going to wait until my Super Deluxe arrived to watch/hear anything from the set, but knowing that the DVD is going to be shorter, I just downloaded the broadcast version and watched it today..
 
Yeah. I was going to wait until my Super Deluxe arrived to watch/hear anything from the set, but knowing that the DVD is going to be shorter, I just downloaded the broadcast version and watched it today..

This is probably what I'll do as well.

Where did you download the broadcast version? I'd like to download that one...
 
It's not like it's anything super substantial that was cut, they're brief scenes, but it's just a matter of why would they even cut it? Like 84 minutes is just too long?

Did they go for super cheap quality blank DVDs that will only hold 74 minutes or something?

This band is so frustrating sometimes.
 
TheEdge25 said:
This is probably what I'll do as well.

Where did you download the broadcast version? I'd like to download that one...

There is a full version up on YouTube, in one whole part. You could snatch it before it gets busted for copyright.
 
Yeah both Achtung and Zooropa sound better with more detail and smoothness. It's definitely worth getting though it will be nowhere near as good as a Blu-ray for detail. We'll have to wait until U2 are as old as Pink Floyd and can't milk the catalog anymore.
 
Is the BBC version the same version that was on Showtime? I see a version on torrent sites, but they were uploaded after the BBC airing.
 
There is no way to get the album alone on vinyl, no remixes, right? The only version I know of is the "vinyl box set," which includes 4 records---two for Achtung, and two for remixes---for $120.

Why was it that the Joshua Tree 2-record vinyl set cost only $30-40, and this 4-record set costs $120?? :confused:
 
There is no way to get just the album on vinyl, right? The only version I see is the "vinyl box set" on Amazon, which includes 4 records---two for Achtung, and two for remixes---for $120.

Why was it that the Joshua Tree 2-record vinyl set cost only $30-40, and this 4-record set costs $120?? :confused:

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Why was it that the Joshua Tree 2-record vinyl set cost only $30-40, and this 4-record set costs $120?? :confused:

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And it mows your lawn and it picks up the kids from school
It gets rid of unwanted facial hair, it gets rid of embarrassing age spots,
It delivers a pizza, and it lengthens, and it strengthens
And it finds that slipper that's been at large
under the chaise lounge for several weeks
And it plays a mean Rhythm Master,
It makes excuses for unwanted lipstick on your collar

'Cause it forges your signature
If not completely satisfied, mail back unused portion of product
For complete refund of price of purchase
Step right up
Please allow thirty days for delivery, don't be fooled by cheap imitations
You can live in it, live in it, laugh in it, love in it
Swim in it, sleep in it,
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Removes embarrassing stains from contour sheets, that's right
And it entertains visiting relatives, it turns a sandwich into a banquet
Tired of being the life of the party?
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And it walks your dog, and it doubles on sax
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Shit, can I get two? :ohmy:
 
I love those scenes. They should have kept them. I have the BBC broadcast version, which I'll keep on one of my many hard drives.

Those moments are important because it shows them listening to the moment where it all came together, They are jamming on the groove that was MW and then they were working on bridge and the chords of One just came out. I've seen it like 3 times now and it is an important moment in the history of the band. They found their way and it was beautiful watching them remember it.

I might say at this moment I am really remembering the time in '91 when this whole thing happened. I was young and thin and ready for "Whats next". You never know how amazing things are when you are living and it's like looking back where you see how far you've come.

I can say without a doubt that this record is the most important record in my entire life. It's not an understatement for me. The whole thing is a heavy mother for sure.
 
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Never stops, lasts a lifetime, mows your lawn
And it mows your lawn and it picks up the kids from school
It gets rid of unwanted facial hair, it gets rid of embarrassing age spots,
It delivers a pizza, and it lengthens, and it strengthens
And it finds that slipper that's been at large
under the chaise lounge for several weeks
And it plays a mean Rhythm Master,
It makes excuses for unwanted lipstick on your collar

'Cause it forges your signature
If not completely satisfied, mail back unused portion of product
For complete refund of price of purchase
Step right up
Please allow thirty days for delivery, don't be fooled by cheap imitations
You can live in it, live in it, laugh in it, love in it
Swim in it, sleep in it,
Live in it, swim in it, laugh in it, love in it
Removes embarrassing stains from contour sheets, that's right
And it entertains visiting relatives, it turns a sandwich into a banquet
Tired of being the life of the party?
Change your shorts, change your life, change your life
Change into a nine-year-old Hindu boy, get rid of your wife,
And it walks your dog, and it doubles on sax
Doubles on sax, you can jump back Jack, see you later alligator
See you later alligator
And it steals your car
It gets rid of your gambling debts, it quits smoking
It's a friend, and it's a companion,
And it's the only product you will ever need
Follow these easy assembly instructions it never needs ironing
Well it takes weights off hips, bust, thighs, chin, midriff,
Gives you dandruff, and it finds you a job, it is a job
And it strips the phone company free take ten for five exchange,
And it gives you denture breath
And you know it's a friend, and it's a companion
And it gets rid of your traveler's checks
It's new, it's improved, it's old-fashioned
Well it takes care of business, never needs winding,
Never needs winding, never needs winding
Gets rid of blackheads, the heartbreak of psoriasis,
Christ, you don't know the meaning of heartbreak, buddy,
C'mon, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon
'Cause it's effective, it's defective, it creates household odors,
It disinfects, it sanitizes for your protection
It gives you an erection, it wins the election
Why put up with painful corns any longer?
It's a redeemable coupon, no obligation, no salesman will visit your home
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Tom Waits!
 
I love those scenes. They should have kept them. I have the BBC broadcast version, which I'll keep on one of my many hard drives.

I was afraid this would happen. Back on August 8th I got an ominous vibe from the original press release, which said the box sets would include "a version" of From the Sky Down. Dang! The press release should have said "a 10-minute shorter version."

http://www.u2interference.com/forum...to-premiere-at-tiff-211846-5.html#post7318417
 
Could it be that the version included with the super box is edited to encourage us to buy the blu-ray when it is released separately???

Anyone from Aus been able to get their super or uber boxes from JB Hifi? I went in on the release day, they said it was delayed, and I payed on the spot to reserve one. They said they'd let me know when it arrived....
 
At the very least, I'd wager these are hybrid versions. They may have taken elements from 3 or 4 demos and played around with them to make what we've got. I'm not saying we've got all new vocals and guitar. I am saying they were not sitting in a vault in their present form, but were constructed out of what was there.

btw. What a missed opportunity is that version of One with the exact same vocal track as the album! :(

Actually, Love is Blindness does not sound like a hybird to me (it sounds as though it was played fairly live), it may have simply been a case of getting a better sounding mix!
 
If you don't have his new one, Bad As Me, you're missing out on something wonderful! (Get the 2 disc version.)

I think my just buying 6CD's/4DVD's of Achtung Baby has made getting Bad As Me impossible for now... my dad's a huge fan though, so I'm sure I'll get to hear it (and, maybe, since he's happy there's finally someone in the family that loves Waits, I'll make him buy a present for me :hmm:)
 
Anyone from Aus been able to get their super or uber boxes from JB Hifi? I went in on the release day, they said it was delayed, and I payed on the spot to reserve one. They said they'd let me know when it arrived....

I haven't heard of anyone having it here yet. I was kind of expecting there to be a delay with the boxes - if I recall correctly I think the other ones were late too. I have my fingers-crossed for before the weekend, but I really don't know :shrug:
 
dan_smee said:
Could it be that the version included with the super box is edited to encourage us to buy the blu-ray when it is released separately???

Anyone from Aus been able to get their super or uber boxes from JB Hifi? I went in on the release day, they said it was delayed, and I payed on the spot to reserve one. They said they'd let me know when it arrived....

I've been told by 3 different stores that the Super & Über are manufactured in EU (whereas single and deluxe are Aussie made) and that's the reason they're delayed. One store claimed they were shipping from Europe last Thursday and will be hit stores from Wednesday morning. Another said they'll be here on Friday. Any day now I suppose :shrug:
 
I haven't heard of anyone having it here yet. I was kind of expecting there to be a delay with the boxes - if I recall correctly I think the other ones were late too. I have my fingers-crossed for before the weekend, but I really don't know :shrug:

I am one of those Australians who have pre-ordered the Super Deluxe through JB Hi-Fi and despite it obviously being delayed I have not heard a word from them and the listing on their site still has the release date as Friday the 28th... I was expecting a delay though, as the previous box sets have all been delayed, and you gotta wonder why that is when the release date was annouced like two months ago?
 
Well, it's kind of annoying that U2 seem to ship everything a little bit cut on DVD.

A cut Under a Blood Red Sky
A cut Conspiracy of Hope concert
A cut ZOO TV special ("When Love Comes To Town" is missing)
A cut "Live from Sydney"
A cut From Sky down
Everything is missing one piece or another.

I hope that the band itself (like a "director's cut") didn't like those pieces and decided to drop them and not that DVD-length or bitrate concerns were the reason to cut.

The super deluxe is lying in front of me now (Austria). It is really HUGE and I can't wait to take it home with me. As it seems I am lucky an got one of the photo prints twice. Any questions regarding the book itself? Liner notes? Something?
 
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