Did the new version of Red Hill Mining Town leak out yet?
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dan_smee
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Not to wade too deeply into the muck again - why are we automatically accepting Bono's reason on this radio show, when other band members have cited the reason being that it was one too many mid tempo numbers?
Now, I certainly am not saying that I think one explanation or the other is the whole truth - but I do think that if they felt it was the best song on the record, they simply would have worked it out.
I mean, while Bono said he couldn't sing it night after night (importantly distinct from couldn't sing it at all), he also mentioned that he did sing songs that he strained on (like RHMT) and and ruined the next show. If they cared enough about the song, they simply would have just done it anyway.
So in the end - I don't think we can say that it was never played because Bono can't sing it. I think we CAN say that it was exceptionally difficult to sing, and the fact that it was a mid tempo number meant it was easier for them to nix.
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Now, I certainly am not saying that I think one explanation or the other is the whole truth - but I do think that if they felt it was the best song on the record, they simply would have worked it out.
I mean, while Bono said he couldn't sing it night after night (importantly distinct from couldn't sing it at all), he also mentioned that he did sing songs that he strained on (like RHMT) and and ruined the next show. If they cared enough about the song, they simply would have just done it anyway.
So in the end - I don't think we can say that it was never played because Bono can't sing it. I think we CAN say that it was exceptionally difficult to sing, and the fact that it was a mid tempo number meant it was easier for them to nix.
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Nick66
Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS
Anytime someone says "Not to wade into the muck again"....you know they're about to wade into the muck again.
BoMac
Self-righteous bullshitter
Is there some sort of law that stipulates that a song has to be played in concert exactly like it is on record?
I'm sure they could have rearranged RHMT differently to accommodate both Bono's vocal range and the fact that it's a mid-tempo song. If they really, really wanted to.
I'm sure they could have rearranged RHMT differently to accommodate both Bono's vocal range and the fact that it's a mid-tempo song. If they really, really wanted to.
Nick66
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lazarus
Blue Crack Supplier
Well I just find it odd that a song originally considered to be the first single would get dropped all the way down to not even being featured on the set list, ever.
Which leads me to believe that Bono's explanation of physical limitation carries more weight, as opposed to them simply not being able to find a place for it in the set.
BVS
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Iggy Fizz
War Child
agreed. not sure why they felt the need to do this remix at all. original is classic. an epic song on an epic album.
david
ONE love, blood, life
He never even sang Still Haven't Found... live in '87 the way it was on record. But he still did it. So yeah. Red Hill's omission from live performances was always puzzling. He could have if he wanted.
I still contend that they were all set to release it as a single, and than they watched the video that the recorded for it and thought again
gvox
Ghost of Love
And in all this...still no one can come to terms with the fact that re-recording it has zero zilch nada to do with Bono's vocals or his ability or inability to perform this song. [emoji23]
Iggy Fizz
War Child
so then what was the motivation? simply more publicity ahead of the tour? $$$? something else? I am not disagreeing with you, just curious...
lazarus
Blue Crack Supplier
Pretty sure you were one of the people claiming RHMT was left off the original setlist for reasons other than Bono's singing.
Which Bono just proved incorrect.
Nick66
Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS
You bitches all need to come to terms with the FACT that redhill was RIGHT and you were WRONG.
FIVE people knew Bono couldn't sing that song. FOUR are in U2 and one is named redhill.
Deal with it losers.
FIVE people knew Bono couldn't sing that song. FOUR are in U2 and one is named redhill.
Deal with it losers.
Listened to the remix and I thought boner's new vox sounded pretty good, the horns were pretty pointless, and that I wanted to listen to the original and the album as a whole. So I did.
Then I smoked something and listened to the 2017 mix again but for some reason thought of it more like a curiosity (sorta like the 'baby' Achtung Baby, which is really fun) and I developed a different appreciation for the new mix.
It won't replace the original for me, but it's fun to hear this stuff. I'm now quite excited for the other new mixes. Flood's 2017 mix of Streets is 6:45 long?! Sign me up!
Then I smoked something and listened to the 2017 mix again but for some reason thought of it more like a curiosity (sorta like the 'baby' Achtung Baby, which is really fun) and I developed a different appreciation for the new mix.
It won't replace the original for me, but it's fun to hear this stuff. I'm now quite excited for the other new mixes. Flood's 2017 mix of Streets is 6:45 long?! Sign me up!
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***Y'all*** need to chill out and keep on topic about the song, not name calling back and forth, bullying etc.. Pleeeaaaassseee
So.. Overall, I like this mix - but to me the horns sound fake, sort of synth-y? Not a horn fan for whatever was changed in this mix. And certain parts of the vocals to me sound auto-tuned But I am excited to see how this comes out live!
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(at least for today)***Y'all*** need to chill out and keep on topic about the song, not name calling back and forth, bullying etc.. Pleeeaaaassseee
So.. Overall, I like this mix - but to me the horns sound fake, sort of synth-y? Not a horn fan for whatever was changed in this mix. And certain parts of the vocals to me sound auto-tuned
But I am excited to see how this comes out live!Love,
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redhill
Refugee
It's a sad reflection of the mentality of a lot of the kids on this board that mocking me or saying they're not down with me...has become a way to build social proof.
Poor ole' Nicky...you just made yourself the perfect example.
Sing along, cool kid...
In the meantime, the thread I supposedly hijacked has gone on for pages with repeated mentions of me. Get over it and just talk about the song.
Otherwise you're just proving me right (again) about the bullying that the regulars engage in this forum. Of course, anyone with a lick of integrity knows that anyway...
Nick66
Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS
That's bitchy Nicky to you.
Now, if you don't mind, please do try to stick with talking about the song, as you've been patiently asked many times before. Cheers.
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gvox
Ghost of Love
Pretty sure you were one of the people claiming RHMT was left off the original setlist for reasons other than Bono's singing.
Which Bono just proved incorrect.
And then he's going to prove he was lying by performing it in the same key that was apparently too hard to sing in 87? [emoji23]
redhill
Refugee
He's trying to prove that he's a better singer now than he was in 87...
redhill
Refugee
That's bitchy Nicky to you.
Now, if you don't mind, please do try to stick with talking about the song, as you've been patiently asked many times before. Cheers.
That's a lie.
Please, even a Mod is asking you to stay on subject. Let it go.
gvox
Ghost of Love
Well wasn't you're entire argument that they were re-recording it because he needs to do it in a lower key to suit his modern voice?
And boom, the track drops and lo and behold it's in the same key as it was on the album.
So unless you're about to come up with some wild theory that we're going to see a hologram of 87 Bono during the chorus on tour, what was essentially your core argument is going to effectively be proven wrong. Lol
redhill
Refugee
No, it wasn't. I think you're conflating me with someone else in an effort to attack me. Can we just stick to the song instead of bullying? That was a serious statement that I believe.
Further, with all the ground-breaking technology the band has pushed forward over the years, a hologram isn't that absurd of a concept.
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gvox
Ghost of Love
You legit actually started a thread about him not being able to sing it like 87 again. Now you're saying he'll be able to - maybe even better it - because he sings better now? Can we pick an opinion here? Lol
Anyways, wouldn't you basically just burn your fan card/smash all your U2 cds if they actually used pre-recorded 87 vocals live with a hologram? Talk about an absurd idea..
Anyways, wouldn't you basically just burn your fan card/smash all your U2 cds if they actually used pre-recorded 87 vocals live with a hologram? Talk about an absurd idea..
redhill
Refugee
No, please reference the first post in that thread as to avoid needless and demented distortion. I was attempting to start a friendly (impossible here) conversation about how it might sound so I'm really not sure what you're on about. I said that *Bono* wants to prove he can sing it better...not that I think he can.
To answer your question, no I wouldn't. Did you know that U2 were playing with technology many years ago that enabled them to target certain audio to certain portions of the venue? So I don't see how a hologram (which has already been done a while back) is so absurd. U2, as mentioned by Willie Williams, is often the first band to use some technology so I don't really take your point.
That said, I don't hope or think they will do that...I hope Bono sings the chorus and totally kills it. It was concerning for me, however, that they were remixing one of my favorite songs as their remixes haven't always been stellar...and it's a tall order...and this direction is so contrary for them in the first place.
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Gabe is not on board
gvox
Ghost of Love
The Boston sit-in will pale in comparison
Joey788
Refugee
To get the true 1987 Joshua Tree experience, they should have a hologram Bono run around, fall and shatter his shoulder every night during Exit. That's authenticity!
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