All critical, "professional" reviews of SOI here, Pt. 2

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This is a thread from an oasis forum about SOI

http://live4ever.proboards.com/thread/79816/u2-songs-innocence-free-album?page=1


Some great comments and an intresting read


Thank you for this! I love to hear from fans of other, similar bands. I find that they don't hate U2 but often provide real honest feedback.

I also was laughing that an Oasis fan wrote "It's a great listen, U2 back on form especially Edge knocking out those glorious guitar licks."

When a good amount of the people in the U2 forum are complaining you can't hear him and there are no hooks! Lol

I happen to agree that he is a bit subdued but thats because I'm a spoiled U2 fan expecting a Pride/Streets/SBS/Mysterious Ways giant riff in every song!

I love that they are really digging the album over in that forum....really cool.


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Pitchfork gave Ariana Grande's last album (which has 23 producers I believe) a better score than U2 (4 producers) and in a more comparable genre - Lorde (1 producer).
 
Q have given the album a really positive review. 4 stars


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Should be added to metacritic along with the hot press review surely?


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Should be added to metacritic along with the hot press review surely?


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I know it's sad but I actually e-mailed them about the Hot Press review but they haven't added it. Hot Press was included on the NLOTH reviews...


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I know it's sad but I actually e-mailed them about the Hot Press review but they haven't added it. Hot Press was included on the NLOTH reviews...


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Don't think it's sad at all? There are 2 very positive reviews to be added here


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Pitchfork gave Ariana Grande's last album (which has 23 producers I believe) a better score than U2 (4 producers) and in a more comparable genre - Lorde (1 producer).

I don't really care that she has a better score than U2 or anyone else under the sun (hell, I might like her new album as well or better than the U2 album for all I know, I haven't heard it), that they even reviewed her album tells you all you need to know. At times, Pitchfork reviews major label pop, rap, r&B, hip-hop and somehow these artists are not supposed to know better than to be highly commercial. Or at least it is not held against them.

Yet Rock is absolutely supposed to know better and major label Rock almost entirely ignored by default for this very reason. It's nearly a cardinal sin for Rock to be on a major label (barring certain influential or massive acts pertinent to the niche), yet Ariana Grande can make as much money for Republic and its massive UMG daddy all she wants and she isn't supposed to know better than to have such unabashed popular ambition. An ambition, almost always, for fame and money and all the rest of the things that these same Rock bands get skewered for. All of this is the hypocrisy of that trendy joke niche in a nutshell, kids. Wake up and get out while you can.

Please understand, I say that as a music snob myself. But I have consistent standards. I'm not objectively right or wrong about a piece of music (although I would argue that I am, subjectively) but I am genuine and objectively consistent and I judge the music and not the personalities making the music. Although those personalities can affect the music, still there are many instances where it doesn't. And I can tell you with 100% certainty, it doesn't make one fucking bit of difference what label it's released on. Maybe in 1984 or 1994 but not in 2014. You shouldn't need anything more than the music unless it's not really about the music. Oh, it's suddenly only about the music when it's Ariana Grande. But not some Rock band that should know better. Ad the label is only relative to the Rock band, because that's the part of the inconsistent code (read: the path to fake snobbery).

And let's face it, this one particular genre of music that is supposed to know better is almost exclusively White (and mostly male for that matter). It's the bigotry of low expectations at work. Just pat cute little Ariana on the head for making a nice, easily digestible pop album and then turn around and refuse to even review a Rock band for merely making a nice, easily digestible pop album. After all, they're almost entirely White, probably suburbanite, almost surely male...and because of that, definitely supposed to know better.
 
oh god London Grammar - i can't bear them - i caught their Glastonbury performance and it was atrocious!
 
Aaaand of course those two guys from Sound Opinions in Chicago gave SOI a double 'trash it.' Ho hum.
 
I really don't know why I always let negative reviews grate on me so much :(


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In fairness, this review is about the music and seems legit.

For once, no mention of the distribution method...

"The now-controversial distribution method of their 13th effort, Songs Of Innocence, goes to show how desperate Bono, The Edge and ‘the other two’ are to still be the big kids in the playground."

Oh, well at least it wasn't about a personal issue with Bono...

"Bono delivers his vocals with a disinterested smugness and an ego in its preposterous prime."

Oh....well.....hmmm.....never mind.



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I bet that reviewer would like to sing in such a way that he could transmit his ego and smugness (and hatred for Bono) so effortlessly
 
I want my most favoriteist band to do well, and to have an album that the world gets behind and raves about.

But holy crap, it's nice to just decide not to give a shit if that happens or not. It's very liberating to just care about whether or not I like it. :)
 
I want my most favoriteist band to do well, and to have an album that the world gets behind and raves about.

But holy crap, it's nice to just decide not to give a shit if that happens or not. It's very liberating to just care about whether or not I like it. :)

wait a minute Cori, are you saying that someone else out there can have a different opinion than me and that's OK?

That sounds pretty crazy.
 
Well, I still think the haters can suck it. I'm just not letting it bother me like it used to. :wink:
 
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