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U2FanPeter
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LN knew U2 would be running through October 2010 when Europe was done. Rest of World dates could not have been complete before xmas - so they knew some corners of the globe could be played in 2011 before they set foot onstage in Barcelona.
My "2 year plan" refers more the BUILDING the stage a year in advance and planning/financing it well before that. I think this tour had much more staging pre-planning than any Stones/Madge deal.
Major acts like AF/Muse/BEP and their agents/managers are not charitable foundations. Whether it's $ of LN brownie points for future arena tours they are compensated.
LN/U2 are more confident about 2011 sales than 2009 sales where they were gambling on stadiums in the US after Popmart few filling those megadomes stateside in recent years. Plus each stadium is smaller, rather than 100k different people being there on one night a mile away from the band.
The same group that laughed at by fans regarding the DUALS fanclub release spends millions a weeks in production just because they love their fans so much?
I highly doubt u2 could fill places like RoseBowl with a cheap Joshua like stage/show, 360 seating and Rocko & The Devils opening up while still charging $250/head for good seats.
For the past 20 years staging innovation has been expected by U2 fans and they have delivered on every tour since.
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For those that think openers only account for 1% of tickets:
MUSE & BEP only helped sell 5-6,000 total tickets in the 14 shows they opened in 2009? I think only RoseBowl and Vegas(?) were early sellout in the 7 months between onsale and show when BEPs album took off and MUSE were promoting theirs.
MUSE & BEP only helped sell 5-6,000 total tickets in the 14 shows they opened in 2009? I think only RoseBowl and Vegas(?) were early sellout in the 7 months between onsale and show when BEPs album took off and MUSE were promoting theirs.
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LOL, you would be lucky if you could say that many! Again, there is NO evidence that anything different would of happened in terms of attendance if Snow Patrol had been opening these shows rather than Muse or BEP.
We know what BEP's concert drawing power in the LA area was prior to the release of their new album in 2009, from the boxscore I posted above. Again, two shows in a 6,000 seat venue. Not a standard sized arena venue.
Muse's new album did not come out until September 14, as the tour leg was getting under way. So again, Muse's drawing power is assessed based on what they did on the previous tour. Then you have to look at the fact that U2 tickets are double that for Muse on average, and the fact that many fans of these bands would pass on seeing them in a stadium environment.
Well, Muse certainly didn't develop any new found popularity until AFTER their album was released in September. With BEP, their new album was released in the summer, but LA and Vegas were already soldout leaving only 3 other shows where the new album could of had an impact if any.
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Again, where is the evidence of this? Yes, there is some type of planning always going on to a certain degree with all of these artist. Both POPMART and ZOO TV had similar lengths or stages of planning as 360. The Stones are no different.
Sorry but you can't use that to try and explain away U2's success on this tour or any other for that matter.
Well, that does not tell us anything and you are indeed using term MAJOR loosely here. There is no evidence that these artist were paid anything different than what Snow Patrol received. Plus, your forgetting that simply having the opportunity to open for the biggest and most popular touring artist on the planet is in itself a major form of compensation.
Looks like you just rebutted your own claim that U2 needed BEP to play the Rose Bowl!
What were the major stage innovations on the Elevation tour and the Vertigo Tour?
U2's reputation is built on their music and live performance of that music, NOT on glitz and special effects.
The Stones never did a stadiums only tour with a 360 configeration at an average ticket price of $100 dollars either.
Think of the scale of what is being done. How would Madonna and the Rolling Stones do under the same circumstances?
What U2 have done on this tour is very difficult and they are the first to ever do it. If MOGGIO's claims about Madonna and the Stones popularity are true, then we should see them do the samething in the not to distant future.
Both will need the FINAL TOUR BANNER to have a shot at equaling or surpassing what U2 has done on 360 in just 110 shows.
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beershack in another thread said he actually spoke to Bono in the hotel the other day and said he asked him if Moncton was going to be the last show and Bono was non-committal about it. we know Edge is not 100% sure either by his comment. There has been no announcement on u2.com about it either. You figure they would announce Moncton being the last show if it truely was going to be because in some way shape or form that would help sell any remaining tickets in N. America. Also, Edge's remarks and the fans "not knowing" for sure, will probably influence more people to buy tickets as well. I wouldn't be surprised if more shows were announced late next month for Europe, but I wouldnt be surprised either if they were not.
I said Lenny Kravitz can currently fill mid level A arenas and theatres. I said NOTHING about him currently being a level A arena draw.
I mean by himself, he is a difficult ticket to get when playing an arena, especially on the west coast where he is opening for U2 this year.
Oops, wait a second. Here is Lenny Kravitz opening for Aerosmith in Arena's in 2006. Yes, Lenny Kravitz playing SUPPORT for a band struggling to fill arena's these days! LOL
AEROSMITH
February 8, 2006
Oakland California
Oakland Arena
GROSS: $862,202
ATTENDANCE: 10,329
CAPACITY: 16,392
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 0
Average Ticket Price: $83.47
SUPPORT: Lenny Kravitz
Now, MOGGIO, what do you think Lenny Kravitz contribution was to this Bay Area show where Aerosmith sold 10,329 tickets?
By that logic, I guess the Black Eyed Peas and Muse can't fill or sell out ARENAS by themselves in North America?!
YOU KNOW how concert demands works. And you know that The Beatles, Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin are each larger draws than U2 in most worldwide markets. And YOU KNOW WHY THAT IS. So, stop blurring the lines and acting like you don't.
Whether or not Snow Patrol is a theatre sized act in Chicago is debatable for reasons already discussed.
Strategic scheduling at that point in time was not utilized to the scale that U2 have utilized it. So, it's a moot point. YOU KNOW THAT.
I know that. But my points regarding what the Stones' can gross in Chicago ALONE vs. what U2 can in Chicago ALONE, OBVIOUSLY STILL STAND.
Elvis Costello is not that big of a draw. And that goes NOWHERE in trying to prove U2 is a larger draw in Chicago than The Stones are.
But what about the Stones' FIRST TWO TRIPS THROUGH CHICAGO?
Bottom line: you're stretching more than I've EVER seen you stretch to make a point that doesn't hold or make ANY sense. JUST GIVE IT UP.
No. But it's a moot point because it's not going to happen. So why the hell even bring it up? You're acting like other large draws or stadium draws couldn't do the same thing?
Again, there are PLENTY of artists who can't play EVERY single market on earth per tour. IT'S A MOOT POINT.
Evidence?! Have you read this thread?!
None. I was talking about them in general and showing that U2 have utilized openers that are larger openers than what The Stones have used. Pearl Jam opened for U2 in Hawaii on the Vertigo tour in 2006. And they definitely helped bring that show to a sell out.
Like I said, MOST MARKETS.
You act as though providing a 2006 stat for two BEP shows in LA, shows how BEP's draw was in LA in Oct. 2009 when opening for U2. Like I've already said THREE TIMES now, at least Snow Patrol's case, that's debatable.
No, they don't. Because apart from Nickelback and maybe DMB...and Pearl Jam, Motley Crue & Metallica (these three acts were only utilized for a few shows), almost NONE of those openers were bigger draws in 2005-2007 than Muse, The Black Eyed Peas, Jay Z, Interpol (possibly) & Snow Patrol were in 2009, 2010 or are in 2011.
They also played in Luxembourg the same week and the Netherlands in November last year. But of course, you didn't mention that...
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I said Lenny Kravitz can currently fill mid level A arenas and theatres. I said NOTHING about him currently being a level A arena draw.
By that logic, I guess the Black Eyed Peas and Muse can't fill or sell out ARENAS by themselves in North America?!
Prior to playing with U2 at the Rose Bowl, what Arena's had the Black Eyed Peas filled in the Los Angeles market?
What arena's in North America had Mused filled PRIOR to September 2009?
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YOU KNOW how concert demands works. And you know that The Beatles, Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin are each larger draws than U2 in most worldwide markets. And YOU KNOW WHY THAT IS. So, stop blurring the lines and acting like you don't.
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Sorry, but concert demand is not just about album sales.
There is no point in discussing bands that are dead. You can make up any dream any senerio you want.
You can take some statistics and claim that this would happen, just like you claimed that U2 would only attract 28,000 people to their show in Dallas. Yet, despite your so called expert caculations, U2 got 70,000 people to their show in Dallas. So please, spare us claims about things that will never happen and focus on the relative here and now.
There is nothing to debate! They have NEVER played any venue that is even remotely in the class of being called an arena. Their largest show in Chicago ever is the 5,500 capacity Aragon Ballroom. Everything else as been in the 3,000 range or lower.
You started this by claiming that they were an arena level act there.
Strategic scheduling at that point in time was not utilized to the scale that U2 have utilized it. So, it's a moot point. YOU KNOW THAT.
Live Nation did everything they could to maximize the Stones gross. Thats all you need to know. U2 are the artist that are playing what is considered to be a relatively nearby stadium market to Chicago. The Stones didn't.
I know that. But my points regarding what the Stones' can gross in Chicago ALONE vs. what U2 can in Chicago ALONE, OBVIOUSLY STILL STAND.
U2 total gross on 360 in Chicago will overtake the Stones total gross in Chicago by over $4 million. Thats the basic fact. You have to stretch the facts to get a different result.
Elvis Costello is not that big of a draw. And that goes NOWHERE in trying to prove U2 is a larger draw in Chicago than The Stones are.
Elvis Costello is certainly a bigger name than Snow Patrol. U2 is already a bigger draw in Chicago without that fact. The fact that Elvis opened for the Stones is just a little gravy.
But what about the Stones' FIRST TWO TRIPS THROUGH CHICAGO?
Oh yes, playing the United Center in January. There is nothing more strategic than utilizing the option of playing smaller venues to pad your gross!
Its very simple. Add U2 360 gross in Chicago together. Add Rolling Stones A Bigger Bang gross in Chicago together. U2 is the winner by $4 million. The only one that is stretching is the one claiming that U2 is not the winner. Talking about vague and less concrete factors such as scheduling the debatable strength of opening acts is a good definition of stretching.
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No. But it's a moot point because it's not going to happen. So why the hell even bring it up? You're acting like other large draws or stadium draws couldn't do the same thing?
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Its never a moot point when were determining an artist true concert demand.
1. U2 is the only artist out there that is restricting themselves to playing only stadiums. Plus, their only playing them in a 360 configeration.
2. The Rolling Stones and Madonna already went down to the arena level. Madonna did that without even playing a single stadium in Chicago. In fact, Madonna has not played a stadium in Chicago since 1987! LOL
The Stones play one stadium show in the fall of 2005. Then they padded their gross with two arena shows in the winter of 2006. Then they thought they could fill another stadium show in the fall of 2006, and got stuck with only 33,000 in attendance. Sorry, but this is the weaker performance. Weaker in attendance, weaker in gross, and weaker in the average size of the venues played.
3. The Stones and Madonna have padded their grosses with Arena shows. What your forgetting is that U2 could pad their gross with arena shows as well, and that MUST be considered when looking at U2's overall drawing power.
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Again, there are PLENTY of artists who can't play EVERY single market on earth per tour. IT'S A MOOT POINT.
Its not what were talking about. Were talking about the fact that there is still demand left for U2 in arena's. Madonna and Stones have already been into the arena's using up demand at that level. My point is that there is demand at the arena level that U2 won't get to touch because of the theme of this tour. Because the Stones and Madonna don't have that restriction, they get to hit more of these smaller venues and come closer to their maximum gross potential.
There are several popular artist who could probably play a 360 stadium show in New York or London, but if you restricted them to only playing venues of that size in 360, they would only get to play two shows on the tour.
The Rolling Stones went out to Idaho and Montana on a Bigger Bang playing small venues. That brings in gross and you can do that when you don't have a 360 stadium restriction like U2. U2 could certainly play concerts in Montana and Idaho, so unless your going to factor that in, you should be subtracting the Stones shows in those states from their total.
Evidence?! Have you read this thread?!
None. I was talking about them in general and showing that U2 have utilized openers that are larger openers than what The Stones have used. Pearl Jam opened for U2 in Hawaii on the Vertigo tour in 2006. And they definitely helped bring that show to a sell out.
Yep, that one show, but were not talking about the Vertigo tour, were talking about 360!
Like I said, MOST MARKETS.
No, were actually talking about April 2006 since the show was soldout in 6 hours. Its a factual stat showing BEP's demand level in the LA market. No different than you have estimated other artist demand levels on this board many times.
If you have a more factual estimate of their demand level, lets see it! LOL
How can you claim that Muse and the Black Eyed Peas are bigger draws than the Dave Matthews band in ANY market in the United States?
How can you claim that Snow Patrol is an arena act in Chicago? You must be doing some serious drugs to be claiming that any artist that has only played the Aragon Ball Room is now at the level of an arena act. Plus, on the next tour, the largest venue they played was a 3,000 seat theater which is a little smaller than the Aragon Ball Room.
What arena's have interpol played in the USA?
What arena's had Muse and Interpol played in the United States prior to September 2009?
Muse hasn't even gone Platinum in the USA!
Most of the following artist have outsold Muse and interpol in North America.
Toots & the Maytals, Black Eyed Peas, Alice Cooper, Maroon 5, Beck, Pearl Jam, The Smashing Pumpkins, Alanis Morissette, Christina Aguilera, Mötley Crüe, Metallica, Bonnie Raitt, Trey Anastasio, Dave Matthews Band, Living Colour, The Living End, Joss Stone, Nickelback, Buddy Guy, The Charlatans, Feeder, the John Mayer Trio, Wilco, Richie Kotzen and Our Lady Peace
A lot of popular artist in that list!
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They also played in Luxembourg the same week and the Netherlands in November last year. But of course, you didn't mention that...
LOL, so that makes them an arena level act in Belgium? LOL, if we didn't play these other countries we would be playing arenas in this one! LOL
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Did I just see someone talking about the draw of three bands that don't even exist anymore?
the entertainment of delusion keeps growing by leaps and bounds in this thread.
the entertainment of delusion keeps growing by leaps and bounds in this thread.AdamThomasU2
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did i just see someone talking about the draw of three bands that don't even exist anymore?
and you know it!!!!!!
Black Eyed Peas
March 28-29, 2006
Universal City California
Gibson Amphitheatre
GROSS: $664,870
ATTENDANCE: 12,042
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $55.21
SUPPORT: Pussycat Dolls, Flipsyde
If they had done one show, instead of the two above, they would've been able to play ANY ARENA in LA, as the above clearly shows. And that was in 2006, where their demand wasn't anywhere near what it was in 2009 or even now.
There were several. But not as many as their last North American tour. And that's because Muse's draw, just like BEP's, has INCREASED.
I didn't say it was just about album sales.
YOU DAMN WELL KNOW THAT THE BEATLES, PINK FLOYD AND LED ZEPPELIN ARE EACH LARGER DRAWS IN MOST WORLDWIDE MARKETS THAN U2. So, stop acting like you don't.
You KEEP forgetting to mention I was only about $6 million off with my prediction of the 360 tour's first North American leg.
Like, I said, that's DEBATABLE based on the factors I've already gone over.
You can't be serious?! The Stones DID NOT utilize strategic scheduling on their first TWO trips through Chicago. However, U2 only played TWO stadium gigs in the ENTIRE Midwest in 2009 and they happened to be in Chicago and this year are only playing ONE stadium gig in Chicago! Why do you think that is?!
St. Louis was added LATE and ONLY because there are NO shows nearby in Iowa, Nebraska and Kansas.
U2's overall 360 tour Chicago gross would be NOWHERE near what the Stones' was in Chicago in 2005-2007, if it hadn't been for extreme utilization of strategic scheduling, nor would it be today.
Elvis Costello is NOT a larger draw than Snow Patrol.
That's total BS. Why do you keep talking about demand as if it strictly came down to arenas vs. stadiums? IT DOES NOT. Demand is determined by $$$ ticket sales grosses $$$, not venue choice or size.
Why do I even bother with you? How many times do I have to go over this with you? You're HOPELESS. That's NOT how you determine the demand levels in this particular case. AND YOU KNOW WHY THAT IS. Wtf are you talking about now?
The Stones did not reach the saturation point in Chicago on the A Bigger Bang tour until they returned there for the third time in the fall of 2006. There was very little or no padding going on during their second trip through.
And ONCE AGAIN, $$$ ticket sales grosses $$$, determines demand, NOT venue size or choice.
And if Madonna hadn't played Chicago on FOUR DIFFERENT TOURS in 7 YEARS, she would be grossing more there than U2 right now.
Of course The Stones' THIRD TRIP THROUGH CHICAGO WAS A WEAKER GROSS. THIS IS BECAUSE IT WAS THEIR THIRD TRIP THROUGH IN 13 MONTHS. DUH!
Like I already said, not EVERY artist can play EVERY market on earth per tour. And there was PLENTY of demand left for Madonna and The Stones in markets they didn't play too.
Definitely not.
You're missing (or evading?) the point. Which is, U2's current and recent openers are STRONGER overall than the openers The Stones' have recently utilized.
Are you actually claiming that BEP's draw in LA in 2006 was the same to what their draw was there in Oct. 2009, when opening for U2?! Because I've seen the stats. That's why. And I was referring to worldwide and not just the US.
I didn't claim they were CURRENTLY. I said it was debatable for reasons already stated.
I didn't say they did.
Muse played SEVERAL prior to 2009. But you're asking that as though somehow their draw in 2009 doesn't count or wasn't higher than it was a few years earlier, despite the FACT it was. Why is that?
So what?!
But most of those artists are NOT larger draws than Muse, The Black Eyed Peas, Jay Z or Snow Patrol.
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Black Eyed Peas
March 28-29, 2006
Universal City California
Gibson Amphitheatre
GROSS: $664,870
ATTENDANCE: 12,042
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $55.21
SUPPORT: Pussycat Dolls, Flipsyde
If they had done one show, instead of the two above, they would've been able to play ANY ARENA in LA, as the above clearly shows. And that was in 2006, where their demand wasn't anywhere near what it was in 2009 or even now.
There were several. But not as many as their last North American tour. And that's because Muse's draw, just like BEP's, has INCREASED.
Again, I asked you what arena's BEP had played in the LA market. The correct answer is NONE!
Here is Muse's biggest grossing and highest attended concert in the United States prior to opening for U2:
August 6, 2007
New York City, New York
Madison Square Garden
GROSS: $536,893
ATTENDANCE: 12,004
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $44.73
All of the following artist that opened for the Stones can beat that figure:
Alice Cooper, Maroon 5, Beck, Pearl Jam, The Smashing Pumpkins, Alanis Morissette, Christina Aguilera, Mötley Crüe, Metallica, Bonnie Raitt, Trey Anastasio, Dave Matthews Band, Nickelback, the John Mayer Trio.
A lot of popular artist in that list!
Also, when considering what Muse brought to the U2 shows in terms of gross, the above boxscore is a good example. $536,893 which is aproximately 3.3% of $16,128,950!!!!! Much closer than any figure you randomly brought out of nowhere.
Because Muse had not done anything significant since the end of the tour in 2007-2008 to have increased their popularity in the United States. In fact, opening for U2 is probably a factor that has helped to expand Muses's popularity in the States in the months since opening for U2 on that leg. A new album had just been released, but all the shows they opened for U2 were within the first 30 days of the release of the new album. Most new fans come in after the initial release in the months that followed.
No, I'm claiming it was the same on April 6, 2009, the day that U2 soldout the Rose Bowl in 6 hours.
Well, what markets did the Stones not play on the A Bigger Bang Tour? I mean, it is after all the largest Stones tour in history in terms of number of shows played, 143. Whats more, dozens of shows failed to sellout, and I mean sellout by their own set capacities. What this tour showed is the band essentially saturating the market completely. They went down into the arena's and smaller venues. When you do that, your able to get closer to maximum potential in gross.
Then lets contrast that fact with U2 playing to an average of 64,000 people per show, the highest per show attendance of any tour in history!
Doesn't matter. What was the total gross of everything they did. Its less than what U2 will have done once 360 is complete, even though U2 did not play the United Center even though they could.
Why did the Stones only play in a 270 configeration when the played the United Center on their second trip through.
So you don't think U2 could sellout a show at the United Center in September? When an artist restricts themselves to only playing stadiums as U2 has done, it prevents from fully maximizing their gross. While another show in a stadium in chicago would not be possible, a show or shows at the United Center would be. But U2 won't be doing that because of the theme of the tour.
The fact of the matter is, utilizing smaller venues such as Arena's, music halls, and theaters is a form of strategic scheduling. If you can't play the big stadium, instead of NOT playing any shows and not getting any money, book the smaller venue.
Well, how many stadiums did the Stones play in the midwest on their first two trips through Chicago? How many stadiums did the Stones play in the midwest in a 360 configeration?
But you said U2 could not play a stadium in St. Louis. Lets see did the Stones play a stadium in St. Louis? LOL
You could say that about the Beatles, although it will NEVER happen. Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin are much further down the list. Both of them have a rather limited touring history compared to U2. The vast majority of Led Zeppelin's shows were in arena's. In fact, it appears Zep only ever did about 15 stadium shows in their entire career. Pink Floyd benefited enormously by being off the road for most of the 10 years between the Animals Tour and Momentary Lapse of Reason Tour. Their last two tours functioned more as re-union tours than a tour by an active band producing its best material.
U2's history on the road overall blows all three of them away. Yes, a major factor is that U2 has stayed together, but its still a fact.
Plus every tour that U2 does puts Led Zep, Pink and the Beatles further in the dust in terms of achievments on the road. Dreaming about some alternative future that will never happen won't change that.
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Are you getting paid to advertise this DVD or are you stuck in some alternate time where these bands are still playing and this movie is relevant?
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Let's go over this AGAIN:
Black Eyed Peas
March 28-29, 2006
Universal City California
Gibson Amphitheatre
GROSS: $664,870
ATTENDANCE: 12,042
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $55.21
SUPPORT: Pussycat Dolls, Flipsyde
If they had done one show, instead of the two above, they would've been able to play ANY ARENA in LA, as the above clearly shows. And that was in 2006, where their demand wasn't anywhere near what it was in 2009 or even now.
Let's go over this AGAIN:
That was in 2007. Their demand has INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY since then.
ONE MORE TIME FOR THE WORLD:
Muse's draw was SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER IN 2009 THAN IT WAS IN 2007 (and still is today).
AND only SOME of the above artists could top that at that point time. Not that that's relevant because of my above sentence.
That's COMPLETE BS. You are so FAR in denial, it's breathtakingly funny at this stage!
ONCE AGAIN:
Muse's draw was SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER IN 2009 THAN IT WAS IN 2007 (and still is today).
Winnipeg, Edmonton, San Antonio, Eastern Tennessee, South Carolina, Southern Ohio, Western Upstate New York, Perth, Adelaide, Brisbane, Santiago, Sao Paulo, Lima, Bogota, South Africa, etc. And dozens and dozens of others, just like other artists...
The Stones did NOT saturate the worldwide market completely. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS. Also, there were DOZENS of 360 tour shows that failed to sell out as well. If you want me to list them, just let me know...
That's not necessarily true.
And that's because the 360 tour is HEAVILY strategically scheduled AND has major ARENA openers. And hence it's the MOST padded tour in history.
It DOES matter.
What the hell does that have to do with ANYTHING? They grossed more $$$ in Chicago ALONE, that means they're a larger draw there. Get it?!
I didn't say they couldn't. It's just that it's pointless talking about it because it's a MOOT POINT. They will have already saturated Chicago on this second trip through in July because there are PLENTY of tickets still left. In fact, without HEAVY strategic scheduling, U2 would've already saturated Chicago by show #2 in 2009.
That's not necessarily true.
IT DOESN'T MATTER. ONCE AGAIN, DEMAND IS DETERMINED BY $$$ TICKET SALES GROSSES $$$, NOT VENUE SIZE OR CHOICE.
I said that U2 couldn't currently play a stadium in St. Louis without the help of other nearby markets...FOR THE ONE MILLIONTH TIME. And that's EXACTLY what's happening.
I think that's probably the most delusional set of statements I've EVER read. You can't be serious?!
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Nope. I'm just reminding you how little you know regarding this subject.
No, here's the funny part... I don't give a shit about ticket sales. Honestly I couldn't care less, it means nothing to me about an artist.
But my 5th grade niece could tear apart the "logic" in some of your arguments.
You're nothing but a troll. It's why you stopped posting in other forums, you couldn't handle it.
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What evidence do you have that Muse's popularity significantly increased from August 2007 to September 2009? Remember, were looking for evidence from August 2007 through September 2009.
Well, I got to the figure of 3.3% by dividing Muse's max gross on the last tour before opening for U2 in the New York area, by U2's total gross for the two shows at Giant Stadium which Muse opened. I figured that at best, they would not bring in MORE than what they brought in by themselves to the shows. That figure was $536,893 or 3.3% of $16,128,950 figure. You claim, based on your 10% theory, that Muse would have brought in $1,612,895 to the U2 !? Thats more than three times what they grossed on their last stop in New York by themselves! LOL
With a figure like that at $44 dollars a ticket, Muse would have soldout in 360 two shows at Madison Square Garden with nearly 37,000 in attendance for the two shows, instead of just one show with just 12,004 people in attendance.
To this day, Muse is still not playing arena's in 360 and back to back nights in the same city, but according to your 10% rule they should be, at least in New York City.
I wish I had examined this arbitrary 10% rule more closely. I didn't realize how inaccurate it was.
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