I said ignorant or biased and thats based on my own observation.
oh, well, then there's not much to discuss.
Wait, one allows the opposition to speak while the other does not. Thats a stark difference. I don't think you can demonstrate a better example of overwhelming bias than that.
MSNBC knows this is their biggest hour for public viewing and this is what they choose to dump on the public.
yes, because the MSNBC bosses choose their lineup based upon their own political convictions, and not based on ratings. it's a business, and if Olbermann weren't drawing in the viewers, he'd be gone. he is.
Wait, where is your proof that Fox viewers are so ignorant?
the UMD study that we've been talking about for the past 5 pages or so. the one that shows that viewers of Fox News believe lies.
At least the majority of the public that watches Fox sees a show where alternative view points are expressed and argued, while during MSNBC's golden hour you only get one side of the story and no opposition.
if you're claiming that Olbermann is more "biased" than O'Reilly, i might be inclined to agree with you. but you seem to think that, somehow, this stands in for the entire network, and keep repeating this as if it has any relevance or bearing whatsoever as to what's being discussed in here.
we do not see on MSNBC the direct, clear links in the framing of the issues between Fox News and the GOP.
we do not see MSNBC make donations of a similar size and scale of Fox to the GOP.
we do not see the demonstrable ignorance in the MSNBC audience that we do in the Fox audience.
the major difference is that Fox acts as a propaganda arm of the GOP, and MSNBC has a business model that strives to shore up the other end of the market for liberal viewers who want combative hosts delivering to them news that feels good. while MSNBC may have stolen their model, it does not follow marching orders from the DNC (or the White House) in the way that Fox follows orders from the GOP.
and MSNBC has smarter viewers than Fox. so it seems clear that while their hosts may be biased, they are not peddling deliberate lies and misinformation or playing into non-truths (i.e., Obama and his birth certificate, the Black Panther freak-out back in October).