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The exciting bit is that four guys in their late forties have produced some of the best music of their lives. Kind of unprecedented uh?
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The exciting bit is that four guys in their late forties have produced some of the best music of their lives. Kind of unprecedented uh?
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GibsonExplorer
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Only if that were true.
It is
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55 u2 no line on the horizon 9,451 -11 10,573 902,320
55 u2 no line on the horizon 9,451 -11 10,573 902,320
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With the excpetion of PopMart, the tour has usually given the album a minor boost and allowed it to remain steady. So if NLOTH is still in the Top 100 by the time the U.S. tour starts, it may see a jump up (do to the extra promotion) and then remain pretty steady.
It's a shame "Magnificent" never took off. I felt for sure that was a classic U2 hit. I wonder what would have happened if that was released first.
NLOTH down on spot to #6 in Europe Album Sales
Dr. Who, check out the singles thread. Magnificent has a new lease on life due to the remixes. It's also up to #14 on the "Top 100 Hits on line" chart, surpassing Boots, which fell off this weeks chart after a 15 week run, peaking at #16 right when the video came out a few months ago.
Not sure whether the remix success will do anything for album sales...but the EP is selling well thanks to i-tunes and Amazon (or maybe just one of the 5 choices is doing well).
Dr. Who, check out the singles thread. Magnificent has a new lease on life due to the remixes. It's also up to #14 on the "Top 100 Hits on line" chart, surpassing Boots, which fell off this weeks chart after a 15 week run, peaking at #16 right when the video came out a few months ago.
Not sure whether the remix success will do anything for album sales...but the EP is selling well thanks to i-tunes and Amazon (or maybe just one of the 5 choices is doing well).
This is getting pretty interesting. On the one hand, the single "flopped", but on the other hand it's still kinda hanging around. beLIEve---what do you know about the Top 100 hits online chart? It seems like that would be a pretty good indicator of a song's popularity in 2009, n'est-ce pas?
It should be interesting to see Gibson, Dopper, Moggio, and others explain Relapse as a success but, No Line On The Horizon as a failure in light of these sales figures.
I never said the first week was a flop. I always thought it was rather impressive. The next 11 weeks combined being less than the first week is not.
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This does not look like a flop to me:
YEAR TO DATE SALES IN THE USA "WEEK 21" USA
With only 5 weeks to go before the mid-point of the year at week 26, U2's No Line On The Horizon is at #3 for the year at this point. It will likely still be at #3 by week 26. Notice that so far only 1 album has sold 1 million copies or more this year and only 15 albums have sold 500,000 or more.
Rank - Sales - TITLE - Artist
01 - 1,139,787 - FEARLESS - Taylor Swift
02 - 952,157 - HANNAH MONTANA: THE MOVIE - Soundtrack
03 - 902,320 - NO LINE ON THE HORIZON - U2
04 - 863,222 - TWILIGHT - Soundtrack
05 - 791,833 - DARK HORSE - Nickelback
06 - 752,416 - THE FAME - Lady GaGa
07 - 729,956 - I AM…SASHA FIERCE - Beyonce
08 - 697,773 - UNSTOPPABLE - Rascal Flatts
09 - 609,416 - RELAPSE - Eminem
10 - 581,018 - ALL I EVER WANTED - Kelly Clarkson
11 - 564,994 - INTUITION - Jamie Foxx
12 - 545,081 - THE FRAY - The Fray
13 - 535,925 - WORKING ON A DREAM - Bruce Springsteen
14 - 523,058 - NOW 30 - Various
15 - 509,700 - 808S AND HEARTBREAK - Kanye West
16 - 442,820 - CIRCUS - Britney Spears
17 - 427,773 - A DIFFERENT ME - Keyshia Cole
18 - 418,165 - PAPER TRAIL - T.I.
19 - 405,102 - ONLY BY THE NIGHT - Kings Of Leon
20 - 399,865 - FUNHOUSE - Pink
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Here are the top 10 selling albums of 2009 as of week 22, with the new sales week added in which just came out this evening:
Best Selling Albums in 2009
1. U2 No Line On The Horizon 2,819,000
2. Lady Gaga The Fame 2,064,000
3. Beyoncé I Am... Sasha Fierce 1,676,000
4. Kings Of Leon Only By The Night 1,647,000
5. Soundtrack Twilight 1,622,000
6. Taylor Swift Fearless 1,601,000
7. Bruce Springsteen Working On A Dream 1,452,000
8. Pink Funhouse 1,310,000
9. Soundtrack Hannah Montana: The Movie 1,279,000
10. Nickelback Dark Horse 1,193,000
Best Selling Albums in 2009
1. U2 No Line On The Horizon 2,819,000
2. Lady Gaga The Fame 2,064,000
3. Beyoncé I Am... Sasha Fierce 1,676,000
4. Kings Of Leon Only By The Night 1,647,000
5. Soundtrack Twilight 1,622,000
6. Taylor Swift Fearless 1,601,000
7. Bruce Springsteen Working On A Dream 1,452,000
8. Pink Funhouse 1,310,000
9. Soundtrack Hannah Montana: The Movie 1,279,000
10. Nickelback Dark Horse 1,193,000
Top 100 Hits on line measures the number of times a song, or corresponding video, is streamed on any given website per week. I think it is more relevant than radio today, IMHO. Problem is, the people who are streaming it, whether it be at U2.com, myspace, yahoo, etc., are probably already fans, although some sites do just "play" songs in rotation like radio. However, to reach an audience who don't already have the album, the song needs promotion and radio play. I personally think radio is dying, if not dead, as most of my peers (30-40's), and practically all of my daughter's friends (teens), have i-pods, play them in the car, stream songs on line, etc.
Still, the song has to be heard somewhere first, and radio is still relevant I suppose, at a diminished level. Magnificent has gotten decent airplay on Rock and Adult Top 40 formats, which are traditional U2 staples. It just did not get the downloads after the week the album came out...and that was not due to airplay; rather, it has to have been the result of U2 deciding to stream the entire album on line before it was released, and some people did pick out that song to download, obviously. The complete lack of promotion for Magnificent made me think U2 were consciously trying to focus on their presence on the net versus radio/single sales.
However, then they come along and release the Magnificent mixes EP on physical disc here in the U.S. and it at least got a little promotion, but again, on line. DJ's are playing the heck out of it in U.S. clubs. However, I still have yet to see any widespread, worldwide promotion of the remixes or the single, and airplay peaked weeks ago...so the timing of the whole process was just a mess. It could have been a bigger hit with some decent planning.
I think the Top 100 Hits On Line is a good measure of a song's popularity, and many of the most popular radio hits from the BB Hot 100 have similar positions on both charts. Magnificent is one of the exceptions, as the downloads of the album cut or single edit just have not been there to get it moving up the Hot 100...but the song is clearly popular, and the remixes are, too, but are classified as "Dance Singles" by Billboard, it seems.
Just FYI, the other website, world music charts . net, updated today as well, at it shows NLOTH at #7 in the world with 76,300 albums sold. This is for the period May 11-17, so I know it does not match with the United World Chart. Total sales for NLOTH according to this source are already over 3,000,000 copies.
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Yeah that was updated last Sunday, run & sales there after 12 weeks is,
5-1-1-1-2-3-4-4-5-6-6-7
117,200 + 1,141,400 + 390,600 +293,400 + 226,800 + 186,400 + 167,100 + 128,200 + 120,600 + 90,800 + 89,100 + 76,300
Total : 3,027,900
World Top 50 Albums
fedeu2
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If we allow for the fact that mediatraffic covers 92.5% of global sales, the 3,027,900 figure is almost a perfect match with the extrapolated figure from mediatraffic (3,030,425).
Is there any reason to doubt the acurracy of this chart? Otherwise it seems to be a better source than mediatraffic as it covers 100% of worldwide sales.
...yeah that's nice, but the thing is, that at least, 3, 4 of those other albums above are still selling and sustaining their various chart positions, NL is heading south rapidly in the UK and Nth America, it's peaked with the first 3 weeks sadly... if it was still in the Uk top 15 or US top 20 maybe we'd be looking at large end of year sales...
It was an initial big 10 day seller then a slow drop and [now] a faster decline... and unlikely to gain again as no singles, videos, promo has really captured the imagination of casual music buyers and lack of video/airplay hasn't helped either... VH1 is showing the Mag video at what? 7am, I mean... good luck there...
People talk about 'oh the tour will revitalise it', maybe it will, I doubt it, and as has been mentioned history isn't on our side... Plus take into account that with those previous album/tours that was when U2 albums were getting serious across-the-board big media attention... so if it didn't really click back then when U2 were perceived to "rule the roost", well.. now?
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Well lets take a look at its first 12 weeks on the international chart:
Week 1: 1,282,000
Week 2: 421,000
Week 3: 262,000
Week 4: 185,000
Week 5: 136,000
Week 6: 122,000
Week 7: 94,000
Week 8: 82,000
Week 9: 68,000
Week 10: 63,000
Week 11: 55,000
Week 12: 49,000
There has been a steady decline each week, but it has not been rapid. Its been more gradual. The UK and the USA are only two markets. The album is still selling well in several countries on mainland Europe and in South America.
Hold on, who has the biggest selling album this year? Who has the biggest selling tour this year and probably of all time? U2 and U2. Who "rules the roost"? U2
Even if the album did not sell another single copy for the rest of the year, it would still finish the year in the global top 10! Only Hannah Montana and Lady GaGa have any real potential of being able to pass No Line On The Horizon by the end of the year. To early to say for Green Day and Eminem, but it looks pretty unlikely for Green Day at this point. The odds still favor No Line On The Horizon to end up as the biggest selling album of the year, just as it is now up to this point.
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NLOTH: #11 (#12)
Chart run:
1-1-1-2-1-1-3-4-13-12-12-11
NLOTH: #11 (#12)
Chart run:
1-1-1-2-1-1-3-4-13-12-12-11
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They're both just estimations, neither chart is "right". I'd trust Mediatraffic more because they're guessing 92.5% of the market while the other one is trying to guess 100% of the market. If mediatraffic doesn't estimate 7.5% of sales then I'd imagine those sales are just too hard to get decent estimations of. I'd say take mediatraffic as the minimum sales and the other as maximum sales
Well, it's losing ground in the major markets.. It has a more niche-like appeal than any recent U2 record [by that I mean it's not crossed over and clicked with the more casual music fan lilke the last 2 did] it did all its work in week 1 then dropped, what? 800k with the U2 base globally satiated; -800,000 by wk 2, ouch...
For sure, it's sold well given the era we are in musically and regarding the state of the industry, but it won't be 2009's biggest seller... it will likely not gain much from the tour... U2 used to dominate and shape the narrative via ZOOTV, Elevation, Vertigo and such, not anymore... infact this may be the first U2 tour where the masses are paying to be there for a trip through the past not the present, sad but quite possibly the case...
Biggest seller of '09? ah dunno, probably that honour will go to an existing 2008 album with current solid Top 20 sales...
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It's still easily the biggest seller released in 2009 so far though and don't forget the market is down 50%, Bomb only sold 9 million. 4.5 - 5 million would roughly equal that
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what would this album sold if the internet wasn't around (more or less) and there wasn't downloading? the same as pop? what did pop sell at this point? if its at 900,000 now it had to have been just over a million. if this was 15 years ago.
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I don't know the sales for around Pop's time but it's usually compared to say either the time around ATYCLB or Bomb, it's about 50% down from that point. I think sales were a bit less 1997 than in 2000/2004 but higher than now
fedeu2
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I wonder whether the 9 million figure for bomb is underestimated. For all we know it may be anything between 9 and 10 million. In any event, you´re right, NLOTH will need to sell "only" 5-5.5 million to match HTDAAB success.
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