If I am the formerly thoughtful poster, have enough balls to say its me. If for one second I felt a thoughtful post might be welcome, I may be more inclined to make one. As for whining...the truth hurts. Deep looks more like he is on the right because the right, is disappearing.....and not because of thoughtful posts...and clearly you must not be living in a glass house.
I have not felt welcome in this forum for some time, and maybe it is time for the door to be closing on my presense here.
no, you're not the formerly thoughtful poster i was thinking of, but i did find that post very whiney. i find it more productive to speak in generalities than to single people out in a semi-anonymous forum like this. likewise, you'll notice that mods go to great lengths not to single individuals out and instead suggest broader correctives to behaviors rather than individual smack-downs. that strikes me as more productive, and so i sought to do the same thing.
i do not think deep is on the right. when it comes to the single issue of Obama, i think deep more often than not is trying to get a rise out of certain, younger posters on here, and i think there's a weirdness that's creeped into many of his posts that could have been pulled from, say, the Michelle Malkin website. deep maintains my respect in all other subjects, which is why i (and many others, i'm far from alone on this) find him so puzzling when it comes to one BHO.
"as for whining ... the truth hurts?" eh? i'm sorry, but not even close, and that's not a particularly mature line of thought. the quality of conservative thought on here has rapidly declined since the departure of NBC. it's as if he was singlehandedly holding up a house of cards that's now collapsed. i'm sorry if liberal posters outnumber conservatives. i'm not sorry that the liberals in here tend to frequently outargue the conservatives. i'm also not sorry that, at the end of 8 years, and quite possibly through the natural evolution of things, that conservative ideas about national security, energy, the environment, race, class, sexuality, etc., all have come up bankrupt. it is not a good time to be a conservative, not compared to 15 years ago at the height of the "Gingrich revolution." the climate is hostile to conservatives right now, and i think you're seeing that mirrored here in FYM. after 8 years of Bush, do you not expect the liberals to look at you (the collective "you") and say, "look, obviously NOTHING has worked. we are fundamentally WORSE now than we were in 1999. your ideas have been implemented by a party that has had total control of all branches of government up until 2006, and the ideas have FAILED."
the truth hurts? i'd ask the same of the conservative.
as for your own sense of persecution, i don't know what to tell you. you're someone i've always sought to engage and who i've always sought to try to engage on the merits of an argument, or not. you're obviously not STING. you're not the college-aged reactionaries who spout soundbytes and then get mad when people get irritated. you're not all that conservative, even if you'd like to think you might come off that way. you're someone who i think looks at the issues and thinks about them, and as such, and as one of the louder voices in here, i have always tried to engage you on a civil, intellectual level.
it's the ideas, i think. the conservative ones are worn out. defending them is hard work, and i don't envy anyone that task. but the worst thing a conservative could do is to make himself some sort of martyr for a cause that ever actually existed to begin with.