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Old 07-20-2006, 03:04 PM   #16
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I would assume the old laptop is already paid for. No?

That's a crappy deal.
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Old 07-20-2006, 04:20 PM   #17
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What exactly does your contract say? Cannot you just claim that an old, dead laptop isn't worth a dime?
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What exactly does your contract say? Cannot you just claim that an old, dead laptop isn't worth a dime?
Yeah, how the hell would they know the value of the water-laptop? It could've had any number of other problems before you spilled the water. And like Elvis said, if you play dumb and say it just died, you can't be expected to pay back for something that is worth nothing (well, maybe $100 total for various parts if they were going to strip it down).
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Old 07-21-2006, 10:36 AM   #19
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Update. Still can't find the contract, but I'm still looking.
Did finally manage to talk to our IT guys this morning. Story is still the same. I am still responsible for the repairs, and if it cannot be fixed I will have to buy out the lease on it, the amount of which he is going to get back to me with. I said to him, that when I got this laptop, even though it was one of the newer ones issued, mine had been used previously, and he said it didn't matter, it was the same price (which he will let me know). I also asked was it not covered under any warranty, and he said yes, but not if I (or a client) spilled water on it. SO the lesson learned here is, that I am being nailed for admitting water got on it one way or another, and I should have lied and said it just died. Now the reason I didn't do that, as Elvis had suggested..sorry ...was because I thought they would find water damage when they looked at it ( I don't know how that works, like I said I know nothing about hardware...maybe some of the techies can tell us if you can tell if something like water has been spilled on a laptop, as, unlike pop or something it won't leave a sticky residue). If we know that you can't tell if water got into something, then my moral dilemma of a few days is gone and I sugesst you lie, plead ignorance, and claim your laptop just died. The only concession I got this morning was that rather than them placing a service call (billed to me) of where they wanted me to go, that I can take it elsewhere first and see if I can get something done myself seeing as I will effectively own it. The other fabulous news is, they had started switching all the mobile people over to desktops in their homes, and the only reason I still had a laptop was that it was one of the newer issues. Now that it has to be replaced, it will be replaced by a desktop...which sucks, as I like to work all over my house or bring the laptop to clients houses etc.


Thanks to everyone for suggestions, support ...nice to know I am not the only one who finds this ridiculous, and hopefully people will find this very educational when it comes to signing hardware contracts with your employer. I'll keep you posted on how it works out.
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Old 07-21-2006, 11:01 AM   #20
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Thanks to everyone for suggestions, support ...nice to know I am not the only one who finds this ridiculous, and hopefully people will find this very educational when it comes to signing hardware contracts with your employer. I'll keep you posted on how it works out.

Wait a minute. It's leased?! So they want you to buy out the lease on a previously used, dead laptop.
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Old 07-21-2006, 11:22 AM   #21
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Wait a minute. It's leased?! So they want you to buy out the lease on a previously used, dead laptop.
That's right...for the princely sum of $700 (that's cdn...not that it matters, it's still $700 to me.)

It wouldn't be dead if I hadn't killed it is the arguement. They just called back to tell me the price. I told them that if it comes to that, I want a copy of the master lease with the company they are leasing it from, and the buyout statement. She seemed reluctant but agreed. In the meantime I'm taking it to some repair shops to see what type of verdict I can get on if it is something that can be fixed and would *please please* be cheaper.
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That is so ridiculous.
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That's right...for the princely sum of $700 (that's cdn...not that it matters, it's still $700 to me.)

It wouldn't be dead if I hadn't killed it is the arguement. They just called back to tell me the price. I told them that if it comes to that, I want a copy of the master lease with the company they are leasing it from, and the buyout statement. She seemed reluctant but agreed. In the meantime I'm taking it to some repair shops to see what type of verdict I can get on if it is something that can be fixed and would *please please* be cheaper.

How's it going? Any updates?
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SO the lesson learned here is, that I am being nailed for admitting water got on it one way or another, and I should have lied and said it just died. Now the reason I didn't do that, as Elvis had suggested..sorry ...was because I thought they would find water damage when they looked at it ( I don't know how that works, like I said I know nothing about hardware...maybe some of the techies can tell us if you can tell if something like water has been spilled on a laptop, as, unlike pop or something it won't leave a sticky residue). If we know that you can't tell if water got into something, then my moral dilemma of a few days is gone and I sugesst you lie, plead ignorance, and claim your laptop just died.
Well, I don't usually do hardware for my tech job (mainly software and phone support), but it seems to me that if something shorts out, it doens't really matter what did it. As long as the parts are dry, I'd think you could argue it was plugged into a phone line and lightning struck nearby (this does happen a lot), or something like that and get the same results - motherboard death.

What brand laptop is it? model? specs?
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Old 07-31-2006, 10:24 AM   #25
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What brand laptop is it? model? specs?
It is an IBM thinkpad T41. This is from the email I just got -
"System will not power on, removed all devices and also tried reseating CPU. Quote customer on replacing system board part # 39T5430. The cost for system board is $1297.69 purchase (IBM)."

The buyout price they gave me is $650+tax = $747.50.

The hard drive is fine, I am actually using it right now in another laptop. Does anyone know if the above quote seems reasonable? I've had that laptop for a year, and it had been used by someone else before it was assigned to me, so I am not sure how old it actually is.
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Honestly that's probably about right. Laptop parts are ridiculously expensive, and that seems to be around what those laptops go for used now.
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Old 08-09-2006, 04:05 PM   #27
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That is a crazy/ridiculous contract that you would have to sign...
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Old 08-10-2006, 10:58 AM   #28
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I am not sure, but with mobile phones for example there are special stickers in the phone and when they get in contact with water or other liquids the sticker turns from white to red to indicate the water damage. The stickers are placed where you can't reach them, and sometimes don't see them at all so you don't remove them.
And with mobile phones there is no warranty if they got damaged by water.

It's really ridiculous that the company claims so much money for the laptop. I can understand if the claim some money for any damage that could've been avoided so that the employees are more careful with the laptops, but to claim that you have to buy the laptop at $700 or pay the repair isn't fair.
Generally with hardware specialists can often see what cause the damage, like overclocking, reducing the voltage or such, and possibly they also can see that water caused the hardware to die either with those stickers or just by watching the hardware.
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Old 08-10-2006, 02:51 PM   #29
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shouldn't of signed that contract...

Was your boss like this when he/she found out?..
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Old 11-26-2006, 04:06 PM   #30
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This happened to me on Friday. Coffee. All over my laptop.

I unplugged the power cord and flipped it upside down within about two seconds (very good), but unfortunately I forgot to remove the battery (very bad).

I took it into my computer guy's shop. He said there's a 99% chance of getting my data off it (including 20 gig of music, pictures, and thesis work that I've devoted the past year and a half of my life to), but only about 20% that he can save the computer. He's leaving it to dry out over the weekend, and he's going to look at it tomorrow and assess the damage.

Wish me luck, guys.
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