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Old 10-24-2010, 09:42 PM   #76
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It's beauty is, I think, self-evident. But, oh, man. It's just so ornately Freudian and xenophobic, you know? The howling, crumbling id-palace at the end of the film is too perfect and stupid (upon close inspection, I mean) for words. I also mean this in a good way, even though the film is indeed frustratingly offensive in addition to being captivatingly or just comically so.

"He say you under ARESS, Meesta Deckahd. He say YOU BRADE-RUNNA!"

I'm taking this from an e-mail conversation I recently had about the film, where my friends and I summed it up thusly/perfectly (this came from a lengthy, months-long dissection of American "action movies" from the late '70s and into the early '90s; I saved the whole thing, because it has many such precise and brilliant moments):

Any time a non-Caucasian opens his/her mouth, pure gold tumbles out. This film has slimy, snake-dealing, fez-capped Egyptians, buck-toothed Fu Manchu-mustachioed Gooks, bands of thieving Dutch midgets, a literal parade of Hare Krishnas (a fucking parade of Hare Krishnas!!!), and everything in between. Its a circus funhouse of racial stereotypes, and another argument for feeling closer to machinery than to people of other cultures.

I own two copies of this film.
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Old 10-24-2010, 09:44 PM   #77
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Honestly, and this speaks poorly for me, I never really thought about that. Your last paragraph, that is.

I was looking for your issues with it, thanks.......whatever you'd praise I'm sure I already hold dear......
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Old 10-24-2010, 09:54 PM   #78
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I can't believe I left Vision Quest and Pump Up the Volume off my list.
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Old 10-24-2010, 10:04 PM   #80
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I once saw the OG cut of Blade Runner in a theatre. The projectionist missed every single changeover in the entire film. Every one of them. It was amazing. Almost a kind of perverse performance art.
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I didn't know that there was an Original Gangsta cut, sweet.






I'm sorry.
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Old 10-24-2010, 10:11 PM   #82
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Ha. Nah, you know it. With the shitty voice-over and the sappy-as-fuck-omg-this-movie-is-now-even-more-ridiculous ending? Used to be widely available via legit channels, in the VHS days. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO bad. Hard to imagine, but it's even worse when it takes an extra 45 minutes to finish, because the projectionist is (not kidding, here) a former crack addict. God, I hated that woman. But that was an afternoon/evening, eventually, to remember.
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So, like, if one wanted to view one of these other cuts. What would be the preferable one to watch.


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So, like, if one wanted to view one of these other cuts. What would be the preferable one to watch.


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The Final and Workprint cuts are my picks. The only issue with the former is the blue/green color correction that Scott put over it, not a fan of that aesthetic. IMDb's breakdown of the differences between each cut is fairly comprehensive.

You may be able to find a fan-edit than incorporates elements from every cut into a cool package. I don't know. Blade Runner's a strange beast in that regard.

Then again, I've never seen the OG cut.
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SHOUTER, bono_212 needs your help.
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Aren't there like five different versions of the film, at this point? The most recent merely clipping or adding a few frames, here and there? As long as you don't watch the OG theatrical release the first time around (even more heavy-handed than the various revisions, somehow, but less effective/more hilarious), you're fine.
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There's the Theatrical Cut, '92 Director's Cut, International Cut, Workprint and '07 Final Cut.

Ford's VO in the theatrical cut rivals his performance in Jedi as the biggest phone-in job of his career.
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I prefer the Final Cut of the 3 versions I've seen.

I also enjoy the source material:

Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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As a big PKD fan and someone who also admires the novella, I find this film a tad overrated. And to be honest, even before I started reading him I never thought it was OMG BEST FILM EVAR. From a visual perspective it's impressive for sure, but what little heart there is in the film just ain't enough compared to how emotional and empathic most of Dick's stuff (including Androids) is.

A Scanner Darkly is in my opinion the only adaptation that's really done justice to the man's work.
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I'll take something as aesthetically perfect as Blade Runner over any of a more outwardly emotional or faithful literary adaptation. And the film is really crazy, as Shouter seems to find so much comedy in it though its his style to amplify his own opinions by several orders of magnitude, but he's not too far off. It's really a one of a kind beast.
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