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Old 06-22-2017, 05:53 PM   #106
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On the next Han Solo...
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Old 06-23-2017, 09:50 AM   #107
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Sooooo... Ron Howard.
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Old 06-23-2017, 08:51 PM   #108
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Old 06-24-2017, 04:17 AM   #109
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Let's just have Daisy Ridley direct all the new Star Wars.
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Old 06-24-2017, 02:16 PM   #110
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Ron ain't terrible but this is a dumb turn. Lord and Miller were the only chance this movie would be worthwhile. But weren't they already four months into shooting? Sounds like another Rogue One situation and we know how that turned out.
 
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Old 06-25-2017, 12:53 AM   #111
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True, but Vader tried to kill Luke/ chopped off his hand/sent him plummeting probably to his death like "oh well, bye" in Empire, and that was - what, a few years in between?

I like RoTJ a lot, but that's a pretty big shift in that time from "lol, bye Lefty" to his son to "Oh shit, my son is being tortured there is still good in me!"

Maybe Vader found Jesus in between.


(I don't really feel that strongly about it, I just finally had something to add to the conversation here.)
Well, it's worth noting that Vader didn't send Luke plummeting anywhere in Empire. Vader had his hand reached out to Luke, offering him help to get back up to the platform, when Luke voluntarily let go and fell.
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Old 06-25-2017, 01:01 AM   #112
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Also, I have never encountered anyone, on the internet or in real life, that defends the prequels(which I don't hate, but they have many problems) the way Laz does. I think he's the only here I've ever seen defend the Hayden-at-the-end-of-Jedi thing.

And Cobbler, if you're watching the original trilogy on DVD or blu-ray, you're watching a special edition. The original, unaltered trilogy was never released on either format, except for a half-assed DVD release in 2004 that was low quality because it was actually a laserdisc rip.

If you'd ever be interested in watching the unaltered versions, a guy by the moniker of Harmy combined a bunch of sources to unofficially rebuild the unaltered versions in HD, and they are fantastic. This project has its own wiki page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmy%...alized_Edition
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Old 06-25-2017, 01:02 AM   #113
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Ron ain't terrible but this is a dumb turn. Lord and Miller were the only chance this movie would be worthwhile. But weren't they already four months into shooting? Sounds like another Rogue One situation and we know how that turned out.
 
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Rogue One is really good on the whole, and the second half is outright great.
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Old 06-25-2017, 01:35 AM   #114
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Eh... I think it's pretty easily the worst Star Wars movie. Such a boring tone-deaf mess until about the last 40 minutes which are admittedly kinda cool.
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Eh... I think it's pretty easily the worst Star Wars movie. Such a boring tone-deaf mess until about the last 40 minutes which are admittedly kinda cool.
I would take it easily over AOTC, probably TPM as well. Maybe even The Force Awakens.
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Such a boring tone-deaf mess until about the last 40 minutes which are admittedly kinda cool.
This, word for word.
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I don't even know what you're getting at with 'tone-deaf', what does that mean in this context?
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Rogue One is really good on the whole, and the second half is outright great.


Yeah, it's not even close to the worst.
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Eh... I think it's pretty easily the worst Star Wars movie. Such a boring tone-deaf mess until about the last 40 minutes which are admittedly kinda cool.

All the transitions to the various locations in the first section of the film were not necessarily disorienting but certainly not put together in a momentum-building way. It just wasn't very engaging.
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Also, I have never encountered anyone, on the internet or in real life, that defends the prequels(which I don't hate, but they have many problems) the way Laz does.
I have several friends in their late 20s-early 30s who are knowledgeable film guys and will debate people who make negative passing remarks about the films. They feel as strongly as I do, even if we all know we're in the minority.

If you want more of a professional opinion, Matt Zoller Seitz is one of the best film writers online, he started the House Next Door Blog (and became known for his long musings on Terrence Malick's The New World) and now writes for Roger Ebert's official site.

Here's something he wrote way back when about Revenge of the Sith that's pretty in-line with what I feel:

Fellowship of the Sith | The House Next Door | Slant Magazine
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