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Old 12-27-2009, 06:00 PM   #316
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Avatar's graphics will look dated in three years.
No they wont. You know why? because they dont look like 'graphics'.
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No they wont. You know why? because they dont look like 'graphics'.
My bad, I meant to use the word "visuals".
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No they wont. You know why? because they dont look like 'graphics'.
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Old 12-27-2009, 06:02 PM   #319
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My bad, I meant to use the word "visuals".


Semantics. My point was that they are photo real. This is the first time when you can look at the CG on screen and not try to convince yourself that they look real. They actually do
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It will look dated in the same way that the model work in Star Wars looks dated today... meaning, not really at all, even though there has been far superior work done in the meantime.
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Semantics. My point was that they are photo real. This is the first time when you can look at the CG on screen and not try to convince yourself that they look real. They actually do
What's real to you is an uncanny valley to others.
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Old 12-27-2009, 06:06 PM   #322
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It will look dated in the same way that the model work in Star Wars looks dated today... meaning, not really at all, even though there has been far superior work done in the meantime.
thigidy-this (thats right). The CG is an art form in itself. People still look back at the original King Kong and appreciate whats going on on screen. This was a huge step forward in cinema and will be appreciated as such
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Old 12-27-2009, 06:07 PM   #323
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What's real to you is an uncanny valley to others.
I disagree. The uncanny valley is an innate response. either its there, or its not. in this case, its not
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Somewhere along the way, people will start remembering that cinema is about capturing real actors doing real acting in real environs.
Cinema is actually about a few different things, not just one thing.

Maybe you'll one day remember, or perhaps learn for the first time, that what you seek out and enjoy most in a theater, or from a book, or from an album is not necessarily what others look for.

As for "real environs", what does that even mean? Are you telling me that a sound stage without a green screen is a "real" environment? Perhaps you're just in favor of shooting everything on location? Even period pieces? Do you own a time machine? If so, do you ever use it? If so, do you look towards the past or the future? If it's the future, do I ever get banned for calling you an idiot?
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Who's more skilled? A photographer who captures real people in real moments or a "photographer" who's really good at photoshop?
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Because cinema is entirely about motion capture right now. What happened to all the people shoot live aciton!?
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Who's more skilled? A photographer who captures real people in real moments or a "photographer" who's really good at photoshop?
Different things. Who are you to make the decision?
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Old 12-27-2009, 06:14 PM   #328
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Who's more skilled? A photographer who captures real people in real moments or a "photographer" who's really good at photoshop?
As a photographer, I think you need to realize that in today's industry, if you are a photographer with no digital post skills, you are irrelevant (there are a few exceptions, of course).

edit: In addition, they are two different skill sets and you'd be hard pressed to determine which makes the artist 'more skilled'
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Who's more skilled? A photographer who captures real people in real moments or a "photographer" who's really good at photoshop?
Both might be highly "skilled", who cares and what does this prove?

Do you mean to say that you value the work of a photographer who captures real people in real moments? Guess what, so do I. However, because I have room in my head for some modicum of variety, I can appreciate the work of both.

You might want to know that you're arguing with people who practically worship the films of Terence Malick. That does not preclude me from enjoying Avatar for what it is.

If you can't enjoy films heavy on the CGI, I hear you, but let's not pretend that you represent the views of all film fans nor are you the arbiter of what people should value cinematically.
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You might want to know that you're arguing with people who practically worship the films of Terence Malick. That does not preclude me from enjoying Avatar for what it is.
Malick shot some scenes for The Tree of Life on digital video!!! *killself*
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