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Old 05-23-2007, 06:10 PM   #46
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As FYM's token white supremacist, I vote for Barack Obama.
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Old 05-23-2007, 06:21 PM   #47
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It's their strongpoint, and they blow Dems away on the issue. Look at, for example, Obama and Clinton's responses during the Dem debate.
Yeah, that's why we're in the predicament we're in, because it's their strongpoint. If so the Republicans are screwed...

The Republicans strongpoint is fear, and making you think this is the way to fight terrorism.
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The Republicans strongpoint is fear, and making you think this is the way to fight terrorism.
That's very incorrect. Try again.

If you want to talk about fear, look to your own party first. The Dems won the 06 election based entirely on fear, spouting garbage scaring the people into thinking that America isnt safe. All the Dems have to offer is fear.
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The war is no longer the only reason people will be voting. Sorry you no longer have that life vest. The majority of people are either against or at least fed up with the way the war is being handled.

The Republicans are going to have to go back to relying on the evangelical vote and McCain can't get that.
The "evangelical vote" will always go to the Republican candidate as it has gone for decades. Its true that a majority of people are currently against the war, but there is still a significant minority, 40%, that is still for it, and if the poll numbers move up in that direction, the democrats will lose their only issue against the Republicans, the current unpopularity of the war.

The economy is doing fantastic with unemployment at a historic low of 4.5%. Without the current unpopularity of the Iraq war, Democrats will be in trouble in 2008.
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Yeah, that's why we're in the predicament we're in, because it's their strongpoint. If so the Republicans are screwed...

The Republicans strongpoint is fear, and making you think this is the way to fight terrorism.
Allowing Al Quada to have a safe haven in Iraq by pre-maturely withdrawing US troops as Democrats propose is certainly not the way to fight terrorism.
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That's very incorrect. Try again.

If you want to talk about fear, look to your own party first. The Dems won the 06 election based entirely on fear, spouting garbage scaring the people into thinking that America isnt safe. All the Dems have to offer is fear.
Really you know what party I belong to? And exactly which Dems used fear? Just one or two examples will suffice.
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The "evangelical vote" will always go to the Republican candidate as it has gone for decades.
But what you don't get is that if they aren't catered to, they don't really come out and vote... So there's no use talking about them.
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Allowing Al Quada to have a safe haven in Iraq by pre-maturely withdrawing US troops as Democrats propose is certainly not the way to fight terrorism.
I agree both extremes are useless. A pullout or a surge, completely useless.

You all made the bed, now we all have to lie in it...
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But what you don't get is that if they aren't catered to, they don't really come out and vote... So there's no use talking about them.
Evangelical's have been voting for decades. Its not the be all and end all that many have mistakenly made them out to be. In addition, McCain draws from a much wider base of people than any other Republican nominee in recent memory. The general election will be decided by the publics perception about Iraq in November 2008.
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Would it be wrong to pray to Jesus that this happens?
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they just need to concentrate on talking about combatting terrorism.
Oh, they will, they will. I'm sure the color codes will be ratcheted up again due to some vague threats beaten out of a detainee just in the nick of time.
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I agree both extremes are useless. A pullout or a surge, completely useless.

You all made the bed, now we all have to lie in it...
Both Afghanistan and Iraq need coalition troops to provide security and help in rebuilding until they develop military and government resources strong enough to replace the work that coalition forces are doing. The surge has already reduced sectarian violence in Baghdad, and its not even complete yet. The idea that its useless is simply false.
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Evangelical's have been voting for decades. Its not the be all and end all that many have mistakenly made them out to be.
I'm just telling you what is coming directly from their mouths.

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In addition, McCain draws from a much wider base of people than any other Republican nominee in recent memory. The general election will be decided by the publics perception about Iraq in November 2008.
I think you overestimate his pull and the roll of Iraq in 2008.
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The idea that its useless is simply false.
Many veterans, colonels, and others in the military don't think so...
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As if people aren't also sick to death of Bush, the entire administration and Republican corruption running rampant.

McCain is polling like 20 points behind Romney in some states. I think he's DOA.
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