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Old 01-08-2008, 01:01 PM   #586
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EVERYTHING they do is planned.
Apparently you've now become a Clinton authority?
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Old 01-08-2008, 01:03 PM   #587
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I'm saying that you're a moron if you don't realize Hillary was crying because she is losing.
I could care less why or what caused her to cry, the fact that it's even made an issue is what's moronic.
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I could care less why or what caused her to cry, the fact that it's even made an issue is what's moronic.
And I agree. I really don't care if someone is crying. I certainly understand Hillary's frustration, and I really (as much as I can bring myself to) feel bad for her. I mean, we are witnessing possibly the biggest collapse of a candidate in modern presidential election history. The woman who has been the inevitable next president for a few years now, the woman who has been planning this run since 2002, is nosediving fast.
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I mean, we are witnessing possibly the biggest collapse of a candidate in modern presidential election history. The woman who has been the inevitable next president for a few years now,
Exagerate much?
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I'm saying that you're a moron if you don't realize Hillary was crying because she is losing.

This is probably the #1 reason that she is crying. And also because there's a strong mentality out there that there will never be a fit woman president. The "Iron my shirt" heckle is completely degrading. It would have been the same if they had called Obama a you-know-what.
I don't even care for Hillary and would probably not vote for her at all, but I think it's admirable that she can get up there and take the insults like, "Are we ready for a woman president?"
We shouldn't even be asking. Same with Obama. But anyway...
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EVERYTHING they do is planned.

Then: She was crying because she was a loser.
Now: She's crying on cue so she's not a loser.

Make up your minds!

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the fact that it's even made an issue is what's moronic.
Unfortunately, this is what politics has come down to. You can only cry in certain circumstances, you can't give a shout, lest they call you deranged, etc...
It's entertainment at its finest. And people thought the coverage on Britney Spears was bad.
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Then: She was crying because she was a loser.
Now: She's crying on cue so she's not a loser.

Make up your minds!


Yeah I was thinking the same thing...
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The "Iron my shirt" heckle is completely degrading. I don't even care for Hillary and would probably not vote for her at all, but I think it's admirable that she can get up there and take the insults like, "Are we ready for a woman president?"
We shouldn't even be asking. Same with Obama. But anyway...

And I agree completely with that.
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Then: She was crying because she was a loser.
Now: She's crying on cue so she's not a loser.

Make up your minds!

No, I think we're talking about two different things here:

Do I have a problem with Hillary or any other politician of either gender crying? No. I don't care.

But do I think that Hillary would have gotten emotional if she had won Iowa? I don't think so. It's obvious that the frustration that she just might not win this thing is getting to her, something which, of course, wouldn't happen if she was still the clear frontrunner.
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But you said it was planned. So was it planned or getting emotional because she lost?

Do the Clinton's plan their emotions? Do you have some secret insider information that they are really robots?
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It's obvious that the frustration that she just might not win this thing is getting to her, something which, of course, wouldn't happen if she was still the clear frontrunner.
So.

I'm sure Mitt has a moment now and then for that very reason.
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It's not really presidential to start a war under false pretenses, and to defy the wishes of the U.N.; or to call the document that we've based our entire government upon a "goddamned piece of paper", but that apparently hasn't stopped our current leader.

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artma...cle_7779.shtml
-Nor is it Presidential to not know the difference between a Sunni and a Shiite, or the fact that Sunnis and Shiites exist, before attacking a nation that has a conflict between Sunnis and Shiites.

-Nor is it Presidential to ignore the warnings that Osama bin Laden is planning an attack on the U.S. and not even have one meeting on Osama bin Laden despite all these warnings and instead to have countless meetings on Saddam Hussein and pre-planning a War in Iraq.
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But it IS presidential to worry about those Pakistanis crossing the borders. Am I right? Mike Huckabee'll back me up on this one.
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It's not presidential to cry, but being stupid is fine.

That could be Huckabilly's new slogan, or the title of Bush's memoirs(of course that would be a picture book).
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I think it's kinda lame that we even have to talk about a presidential candidate weeping. I guess no one's really quite ready for a girl president.
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The woman who has been the inevitable next president for a few years now,
Oh please! All I've heard from people like you is how unelectable she is, how polarizing she is and how people will turn out in droves to vote for anyone but her. Now you claim she's been crowned years ago. You can't have it both ways.
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