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Old 04-22-2006, 10:54 PM   #46
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It's such a beautiful thing when a free spending republican posing as a conservative enters the White House and is bombarded by mudslingling liberals. As a conservative, I'm really not happy with Dubya... Perhaps he's not caving to a bit of resistance in the war on terror and he appointed a few conservatives to the Supreme Court (Minus the Harriet Miers Debacle).. but this man is no conservative.

I'm still puzzled by the distaste over W's administration as he's more liberal than John F. Kennedy.

I will say that I am all in favor over bringing the true Virginia Senate Race... Formers Governor George Allen vs. Mark Warner to an election for the Big House. Two competent candidates who could each be effective would they be elected... Though I would like say that the US Senate might pose a bit more difficulty in being bamboozled when it comes to the totality of a surplus/deficit as was the VA Senate. D-Bags them all.

And while I'm on the topic of the VA Governor... Tim Kaine has proved himself to be nothing more than an Illegal Immigrant supporting, against his word tax raising douchebag. The man is no catholic... much less a respectable governor.... or human being.
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Attacking the man's record is one thing, attacking him as a less respectable human being and questioning his faith is an entirely other matter. If you disagree with him on the Illegal Immigrants issue, too bad. If you don't want higher taxes, don't worry about using the roads or having them repaired. FYI-his plan does NOT raise the gas tax, the Republican senate does. While I can understand your having problems with him on the issues, I do have a problem with your questioning his integrety as a person, and calling him a "douchebag". Get to know him a little better, I think you'll change your mind about that. He's only been in office a few months, give him a chance.
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I love how you see all these people hysterically up in arms about their gas taxes getting raised when we in the rest of the world have huge taxes on our gas and last I heard, our economies haven't collapsed.
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It's the tight-gripped fiscal conservatism of Virgina...the south for that matter.
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Old 04-23-2006, 05:50 AM   #50
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I'm still puzzled by the distaste over W's administration as he's more liberal than John F. Kennedy.



This is some funny shit, thanks for coming to FYM, you're entertaining.

You are right though Bush isn't a true conservative, but the party has seemed to have lost sight of what that means.

As far as the rest of your post...doesn't really deserve reaction. Your attacks are meritless.



***edited to say I apologize, just found out this person was banned.***
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I love how you see all these people hysterically up in arms about their gas taxes getting raised when we in the rest of the world have huge taxes on our gas and last I heard, our economies haven't collapsed.
People get their panties in a bunch over gas taxes for no reason. A lot of it has to do with conditioning from the GOP that taxes are the cause of everything bad in America.

Well, I happen to live between Michigan and Ohio, and while Ohio has 8 cents more per gallon in gas taxes than Michigan, Ohio's gas prices are, on average, 20 cents or more cheaper per gallon.

Gas taxes aren't that bad for one reason: they're one of the few sales taxes in this nation that's actually lumped in with the list price. As such, they've become part of the supply and demand curve, and, as such, repealing gas taxes will do nothing but give you short term relief until gas prices bounce right back up to what they were before. This time, however, oil companies will just get more profits.

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It's such a beautiful thing when a free spending republican posing as a conservative enters the White House and is bombarded by mudslingling liberals. As a conservative, I'm really not happy with Dubya... Perhaps he's not caving to a bit of resistance in the war on terror and he appointed a few conservatives to the Supreme Court (Minus the Harriet Miers Debacle).. but this man is no conservative.

I'm still puzzled by the distaste over W's administration as he's more liberal than John F. Kennedy.
Cute. I'm only addressing this, mainly because this person has said what many other conservatives have also said.

If you define "conservative" in terms of spending--that is, liberals spend us into a deficit and conservatives are frugal--I guess that means that Reagan was a flaming liberal himself. His budget numbers certainly reflect that.

It really kind of shows how rabid partisanship has long gotten in the way of reason for decades.

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And while I'm on the topic of the VA Governor... Tim Kaine has proved himself to be nothing more than an Illegal Immigrant supporting, against his word tax raising douchebag. The man is no catholic... much less a respectable governor.... or human being.
Well, I can see why this person were banned in the first place (I have a good idea who he is based on his name here).

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Bill Clinton seems optimistic

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"New York to Sen. Ted Kennedy: If you want to be the center of attention at your party, don't invite Bill Clinton.

The liberal senator did give such a moving speech at the fete for his new book, "America: Back on Track," that actor Eli Wallach reached out and squeezed the hand of his wife, Anne Jackson, throughout. "In the 43 years in which I've had the honor to serve in the United States Senate, I have never seen our democracy in greater disarray, or greater turmoil," Kennedy, 74, told the gathering, which included Sen. John Kerry, Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg, former Commerce Secretary Bob Rubin, E.L. Doctorow, Gail Buckley, David Halberstam, Phyllis Newman, Joe Armstrong and all three of his sisters, Pat, Eunice and Jean.

Kennedy said his book was about the times — in which he was a key figure — "when the nation took on race, when other countries wouldn't ... we knocked down walls on gender ... the elderly ... 42 million disabled ... education ... When we had leaders. Where are we now? With the war in Iraq, and Katrina, and cronyism. It's a politics of fear." Speaking of fear, he added that he'd just had the "longest eight minutes of his life" — by going on Jon Stewart's "Daily Show."

Luckily, the Massachusetts pol finished before there was a stir at the other end of the room, which the guests flowed to like iron filings to a magnet. It was the 42nd President, being asked to sign Ted's book.

"I think the elections are a gift," Clinton told the Daily News. "The Democrats have great ideas ... I think we're going to have a great year. I'd be very surprised if we don't."
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Well, you have to understand. I'm making these opinions based on the individual, rather than their popularity. I'm not sure Feingold is interested in running, but there's the usual grassroots group of people pushing for him to do so.

Out of your above list, Warner is probably the most electable, even if I have unanswered questions about him.

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Feingold is certainly all over the place for someone not running. He's winning most of the straw polls on the web and is certainly the netroots top choice. Mainly for his getting off his ass and standing for something. He also is giving interviews on lefty radio and websights. Love his saying the dems are in the foxholes and his characterisations of the DC Consultants getting in the way as in the Huffpo story. They pulled the same crap in Penn adn Ohio interfering with primaries.

As a side note the Ohio Republican primary is getting so nasty. Blackwell is calling Petro the pro-homo candidate (sorry their words not mine) because he opposed the last same-sex marriage amendment because we already had one and the new one was seen to affect opposite sex cohabitation. It has been found by the Ohio court to prohibit domestic violence charges against cohabitators.
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As a side note the Ohio Republican primary is getting so nasty. Blackwell is calling Petro the pro-homo candidate (sorry their words not mine) because he opposed the last same-sex marriage amendment because we already had one and the new one was seen to affect opposite sex cohabitation. It has been found by the Ohio court to prohibit domestic violence charges against cohabitators.
I find Ohio to be breathtakingly scary these days. It makes me glad I only work there.

Of the two, Blackwell is the ultra-evil candidate, while Petro is just evil.

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Melon, I couldn't agree more. Scarier yet is we now have only Deibold machines in the state bought by Blackwell.

www.Bradblog.com has great electronic voting problems. They are being diallowed all over the US and are being sued by both parties.
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Wow. I just saw that Blackwell ad. He's such an incomprehensible loser. I can't believe people can be THAT stupid.

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Today unveiled Petro's response. Rather clever as he doesn't remark to Blackwell's chargesm just gets the point of "Hypocrite" across.

Greenwald has a good piece on Feingold and what the Dem's are lacking. (As has been articulated and I agree)

"He explained that had he done that, the matter would have then been vetted by "Democratic consultants" who would have decided to kill the idea entirely before it could even be proposed on the floor. "Our party," he said, "is too beholden to Democratic consultants."


Initially, it should be noted that I have been waiting for some time to hear Feingold explain: (a) whether he did provide any advance warning to other Senators before announcing his Censure Resolution and (b) if not, as seemed to be the case, what the reasons were for not doing so. This is the first time I have seen anyone ask him this. That the truly probing questions are being asked by bloggers rather than by national journalists is becoming increasingly commonplace.

As for Feingold's explanation, it is easy to see exatly what he is describing. Democratic consultants attacked and tried to kill his resolution even after it was announced and had been widely publicized. Is there any doubt at all that had he consulted in advance with Democrats, all that he would have confronted would be efforts to dissuade him from doing anything?

As Crashing the Gate chronicles, and as Feingold implied, the Democratic Party has all but turned itself over to highly risk-adverse, overly calculating political consultants who have drained the party of ideals, passion, energy and life. Almost all of them inspire nobody, because they so transparently lack any governing principles or passion about anything. They embrace only those ideas which are guaranteed in advance to be popular, and they run from ideas they believe in and that are right whenever they are told -- by the bookish, soul-less consultants who dominate them -- that those ideas are risky or unpopular. And everyone sees this and knows this.
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