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Old 02-12-2004, 11:29 AM   #16
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Interesting, the stereotypes woven into some of the posts in this thread alone. Evangelicals (or whatever box you place conservative Christians) are (1) suppose to reject all "R" rated movies and (2) suppose to reject things done by Catholics.
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Interesting, the stereotypes woven into some of the posts in this thread alone. Evangelicals (or whatever box you place conservative Christians) are (1) suppose to reject all "R" rated movies and (2) suppose to reject things done by Catholics.
I said I personally know lots of conservative Christians that reject all "R" movies, I said nothing about all conservative Christians. I grew up in a Church where people wouldn't see Schindler's List because of it's rating. I just wondered if they will make an exception.
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Well, there are still a number Evangelical leaders who to this day preach that the Pope is the AntiChrist (I don't like the guy much, but come on!) and Catholics aren't Christians.
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I said I personally know lots of conservative Christians that reject all "R" movies, I said nothing about all conservative Christians. I grew up in a Church where people wouldn't see Schindler's List because of it's rating. I just wondered if they will make an exception.

i know many of the same minded "christian" people.


i know some that liked the movie "titanic" very much.

it was rated pg-13.


lots of families saw that movie.

well, I know some that were upset and said it deserved an R rating.

should children be alowed to see titanic?
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It is interesting....

I was a Catholic at an Evangelical College.......

1st day of school I was told I was going to hell by a beautiful woman....because I worshipped statues.

WE were forbidden to go to movies or dancing. Yet mys sophmore year the college received a letter from a local theater thanking the college for its support. It seems they would have gone out of business if we did not sneak up there for $1 movies on Monday and Tuesday night. I had friends called to the deans office because they were caught in going to the movies or suspended for going dancing. We NEVER went dancing we went Bowling.

Catholics were not well liked on the campus. We were all going to hell.

Anyways, THE LAST TEMPTATION of CHRIST came out my Jr. year of college. Everyone was up in ARMS over that. Wow. My friends the religioun majors and I snuck out to see it. Many of them disagreed with the uproar. Boy were we naughty. I loved the movie so much, I bought the book. The book was even better.

I do indeed find it funny that they were allowed to rent movies. they were not allowed to go to the movie theater. Kind of cracks me up a bit.
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Yeah some ultra-conservative evangelicals are really screwed up. I do think the practice of venerating icons of saints, Mary and Christ verges on idolotry as well as praying to saints and Mary (Christ is our intercessor the only reason why tthere need to have intercessors to Him is that the Catholic Church in the high Middle Ages so demphasised his human nature as to make such things necessary), but in my experience such practices are far from universal in Catholicism, and when practiced practiced to varying degrees. But really who are they to say who's saved or not... I sure as hell can't say, that's not my perview, that belongs to God and none of us. Some times I just want to hit some of these poeople over the head with a big hammer with the words "Judge not lest ye be judged" engraved on it. And what was that about anyone who hates his brother/sister murders him/her in his heart and about how anyone who says he/she loves God but hated his/her brother/sister is a liar.... Morons. Man you's think people at an Evangelical College might know their scripture a bit better.

And I gotta love the anti-dancing rehrotic. Protestanism is about having beliefs based in Scripture only, but there's nothing in these about dancing be a sin. And tetotalers don't have a leg to stand on either. There's words against making yourself a drunken fool, but drink in itself isn't condemned, otherwise what the heck was Jesus doing turning water into wine....
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If anyone's interested, Diane Sawyer is interviewing Mel tomorrow night.

I look forward to seeing this movie and finally being able to form my own opinion about it.
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Did the studio eventually release this with subtitles, anyone know?
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I couldn't find anything on the official site re subtitles, but another site I found said it is likely it will have them..that rough cuts of the film do contain subtitles.
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Did the studio eventually release this with subtitles, anyone know?
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Lightning Struck Actor Playing Jesus in Gibson's Passion



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Jim Caviezel, the actor playing Jesus in Mel Gibson’s “The Passion of The Christ” was struck by lightning during filming of the controversial movie.
The crew was on location outside of Rome when a lightning bolt struck the actor and assistant director Jan Michelini. What makes this more strange is this is the second time that Michelini has been struck by lightning during the filming of this movie, according to a report from the BBC.] Both men were not badly hurt.

Steve McEveety, the film’s producer told VLife, "I'm about a hundred feet away from them when I glance over and see smoke coming out of Caviezel's ears."

Maybe someone is trying to tell them something?

Michelini was previously struck when a lightning fork zapped his umbrella during filming on top of a hill near Matera in Italy. He only suffered minor injuries consisting of mild burns to the tips of his fingers.

The film is being directed by Mel Gibson, who also co-stars in the feature. It focuses on a controversial interpretation of the last 12 hours of Jesus’ life. It is reportedly based primarily on the scriptures in the New Testament but is “augmented” in part with the visions of a 19th century nun, St Anne Catherine Emmerich. Her visions are recounted in the book “The Dolorous Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ”, and reportedly portray the heads of the Jewish Church as particularly blood thirsty.

Gibson is a practicing “traditionalist” Catholic, a sect that rejects the reforms to the Roman Catholic Church that came out of the Second Vatican Council held in the 1960s. Gibson has drawn fire from Jewish Americans over this film that believe that the Jews are portrayed as overly violent in the feature.

Some have gone as far as calling the film "demonic" and un-Christian.

In a stab towards authenticity the movie’s dialog is being filmed entirely in Latin and Aramaic. This has drawn even more controversy since most historians agree that Latin was not a common language used during the time of Jesus. In fact, according to most historians, the "koine" form of Greek was the primary language in Jerusalem at the time of Jesus used by Jews and Romans. Assyrian Aramaic is widely accepted as the native language of Mary and was used by most Jews in their everyday conversations. Most historians state that Jerusalem at the time was a multi-lingual culture. Latin was used by the Romans but primarily in the western empire and only in military matters among themselves in the East, they spoke ‘koine’ Greek with the natives of Jerusalem but Hebrew was also used at the time and was the official language used in the church.

Perhaps the producers of the film sourced the languages used (except for Greek) from John 19:19-20: "Pilate had a notice prepared and fastened to the cross. It read: JESUS OF NAZARETH, The King of the Jews. Many of the Jews read this sign, for the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city, and the sign was written in Aramaic, Latin and Greek." Or perhaps the fact that “traditionalist” Catholics still celebrate mass in Latin, a practice ended in the Roman Catholic Church following the Second Vatican Council when the common vernacular was adopted.

Although, there are some who disagree even on this and argue that Hebrew was used as the common vernacular of the Jews.

If you plan to go see the film, you might want to bring a lightning rod along just in case.
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Well I had hopes for this film, but now I'm not so sure...

BEVERLY HILLS, California — People have been saying for years that Scott Stapp likes to write songs for Jesus, and they're right. The Creed singer has put together four songs for Mel Gibson's controversial new movie "The Passion of the Christ."

http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/148...headlines=true
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lol - I heard that the other day BonoVoxSupastar

That might be my only complaint about the movie

Oh well, at least Scott's not playing Jesus..
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Dread, your school seems even stricter than my university, which I didn't think was humanly possible. People always think I'm making things up when I tell them about the rules my college had. Though the church I went to in high school was like the situation you described. The kids there weren't allowed to go to the prom, Catholics were all going to hell, kissing someone before your wedding day was fornication, there was an entire sermon on the evils of Titanic alone, and several on any movie rated above G (they had a binder of pastor-approved films in the church library and you were supposed to make sure the movie was on that list before you saw it).
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I am looking forward to seeing this film. Just to preface, I am Catholic, a history major, and a high school teacher. My historian sensabilities tell me the Bible is not to be trusted as a good primary source. My Catholic upbringing clashes with that. Anyway, a teacher I work with is Jewish and she was making me feel very uncomfortable about wanting to see this film. She is very up in arms over it. I don't know...it was like she was insulted that I would want to see such a film...
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