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Ubersexual: The New Masculine Ideal?
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This is what you get when you log on to AOL at 1am in the morning But whatever... (actually, it's a halfway decent read )
I find it interesting that they list both Bono and George Clooney on the opening page, as both are Taurus, (like myself).
You know, I actually have felt this. Personally, I do not have a role modle, save Bono, sort of. But... the notion of being uncertain about role modles, and manliness, is very hazy, in my opinion, as there is no clear cut "model" I can point to, so most of it is self-generated.
Yup, I've seen this. I think the playing fields are very level, and perhaps always have been, because I hear stories (look at ZC) from both men and women about how their relationships are in trouble, etc. So both sides may be justifying themselves through relationships
...... I believe this is very true, in most cases. ( my initial reaction, though, was " damnstraight, that's how a lot of men and women are." )
For the most part, I agree with that, too. And also, I do feel good about myself when I think that way, and I am similar to the way they describe there. If anything, I have turned a girl off by being too "I wanna take care of you" about her, to be honest, in the past. Nevertheless, I am somewhat proud that such things are becoming more attractive, because if nothing less, I think it is simply "better" or "more correct", though I won't yet explain how I am coming to those conclusions.
I like the "positive characteristics of the Real Man of yesteryear", so to say. I think a lot of American men, especially, need those traits.
(note: I did this review as I read the article, so much obliged if you can withstand it's .... "sporadicality", as our favorite W would put it)
What y'alls think?
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Metrosexual is so 2003. Men with properly focused masculinity, or "M-ness," have all-male best friends and worry about the world, like George Clooney and Bono. But Mr. Nice Guys they are not.
This is what you get when you log on to AOL at 1am in the morning But whatever... (actually, it's a halfway decent read )
I find it interesting that they list both Bono and George Clooney on the opening page, as both are Taurus, (like myself).
(from page 2)"It was clear that men were questioning the feminization of men," said Salzman, explaining the origins of The Future of Men.
"We wrote the book to focus on the question, 'what is the byproduct of 40 years of increased rights for women?' The instability of the male role model has been a reaction to the rise of equal rights for women."
You know, I actually have felt this. Personally, I do not have a role modle, save Bono, sort of. But... the notion of being uncertain about role modles, and manliness, is very hazy, in my opinion, as there is no clear cut "model" I can point to, so most of it is self-generated.
From 'Nice Guy' to 'Integrated Male'
Robert Glover, PhD, a psychotherapist and marriage counselor, believes many men have responded to feminism by repudiating traditional masculine traits -- such as strength, assertiveness, and independence -- because they fear feminists may find those traits offensive. In an effort to please women, they transform themselves into sensitive, emotionally responsive "nice guys."
"They constantly ask themselves, 'how do I make sure the woman is happy and doesn't get upset with me?'" says Glover, author of No More Mr. Nice Guy.
Yup, I've seen this. I think the playing fields are very level, and perhaps always have been, because I hear stories (look at ZC) from both men and women about how their relationships are in trouble, etc. So both sides may be justifying themselves through relationships
This "nice guy syndrome," as he calls it, causes men to hide their masculine nature. And this, according to Glover, often repels women.
"The man believes he's doing everything right in terms of trying to make the woman happy, but her complaint is, 'I can't trust him,'" Glover says. "Men like this are not telling the truth about themselves because they don't want to upset women, but women walk away feeling that their men have no integrity, no consistency. They say things like, 'I don't know what he's really thinking.' Women get very frustrated by males who are always seeking to please them."
Glover tries to help men become "integrated" by recognizing their own needs. And his integrated man bears an uncanny resemblance to the ubersexual.
...... I believe this is very true, in most cases. ( my initial reaction, though, was " damnstraight, that's how a lot of men and women are." )
Honest and Direct
"The integrated man is honest," Glover said. "He's clear and direct in expressing his needs, and he makes his needs a priority. By making his needs a priority, a man doesn't need a woman to fill him up and make him happy. He is not an emotional vampire."
All this helps the integrated male develop the passion that is the hallmark of the ubersexual.
"Only when you put your priorities first can you have passion," said Glover.
Ironically, the ubersexual himself bears an uncanny resemblance to the traditional male of decades past - a more talkative Gary Cooper, perhaps, or a more emotionally expressive Humphrey Bogart. It's as though men have moved so far forward that they can afford to go backward to a time when men were distinctly manly.
The authors of The Future of Men agree.
"In many ways, [ubersexuals] mark a return to the positive characteristics of the Real Man of yesteryear (strong, resolute, fair) without having acquired too much of the self-doubt and insecurity that plagues so many of today's men," they write. "Even if they've never heard the term, they are by their very essence believers in their own M-ness."
For the most part, I agree with that, too. And also, I do feel good about myself when I think that way, and I am similar to the way they describe there. If anything, I have turned a girl off by being too "I wanna take care of you" about her, to be honest, in the past. Nevertheless, I am somewhat proud that such things are becoming more attractive, because if nothing less, I think it is simply "better" or "more correct", though I won't yet explain how I am coming to those conclusions.
I like the "positive characteristics of the Real Man of yesteryear", so to say. I think a lot of American men, especially, need those traits.
(note: I did this review as I read the article, so much obliged if you can withstand it's .... "sporadicality", as our favorite W would put it)
What y'alls think?
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