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Old 03-10-2007, 08:58 AM   #61
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Hey, aren't all your politicians always getting into trouble and having to resign because they're always hiring household staff, nannies etc etc who turn out to be "illegal immigrants". Geez, poor folk, they can't afford to pay standard rates....
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That's the biggest lie you've been sold.

How much will your produce, construction costs, landscaping, housekeepng etc raise if immigration was suddenly cut off? Talk about Billions...

If someone could should me true facts about these "billions", I may stay and listen.
But isn't illegal immigration a new form of slavery?
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But isn't illegal immigration a new form of slavery?
No, it's not ideal, but it's not slavery. Not even close.
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But isn't illegal immigration a new form of slavery?
Slaves were/are denied the right to education, the right to medical treatment, the right to earn wages for their work, the right to adequate housing. The very things you yourself want to deny to illegal immigrants.
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Slaves were/are denied the right to education, the right to medical treatment, the right to earn wages for their work, the right to adequate housing. The very things you yourself want to deny to illegal immigrants.
BILLIONS!!
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That's the biggest lie you've been sold.

How much will your produce, construction costs, landscaping, housekeepng etc raise if immigration was suddenly cut off? Talk about Billions...

If someone could should me true facts about these "billions", I may stay and listen.
Maybe the prices would go down if we didn't have to feed,cloth,educate or provide any health care for them.
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BILLIONS!!
Trillions!

Wow, and now?

You considered yourself socialist if I'm not wrong.
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Maybe the prices would go down if we didn't have to feed,cloth,educate or provide any health care for them.
You are missing the point.
Most services would be way more expensive, because then these companies would have to employ union workers that demand much higher wages.
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Maybe the prices would go down if we didn't have to feed,cloth,educate or provide any health care for them.
Wow, that point went sailing over your head, didn't it?
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Thousands refuse to learn the main language of the united states which is english (the language most spoken around the world.)
Nope. Not even close.

More than one billion people speak Mandarin. English-speakers account for only 500 million across the world. Spanish (in its various forms) has approximately 400 million subscribers.

I think you should read Orientalism some time... just for fun.
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We're not too keen on facts in these threads.
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Trillions!

Wow, and now?

You considered yourself socialist if I'm not wrong.
Bazillions!

Kajillions!!!

Wow this is fun...

I totally don't get the illegal immigration:slavery analogy. I suppose some of the illegals here end up doing work that reduces them to virtual slaves (sweatshops etc).
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We're not too keen on facts in these threads.
Well, to be fair... English is spoken in more countries than any other language.

But, prominence is a subjective measure when you're dealing with language.

In keeping with the spirit of the thread, I thought I should present various perspectives on facts.
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We're not too keen on facts in these threads.

Please you don't like to acknowledge my facts.
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Slaves were/are denied the right to education, the right to medical treatment, the right to earn wages for their work, the right to adequate housing. The very things you yourself want to deny to illegal immigrants.
Why should we when there NOT FUCKING CITIZENS. So you don't mind your tax dollars helping people who are not citizens of this country, yet you mind if we use it for wars or reconstruction costs for other countries.
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