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Old 02-18-2005, 01:16 AM   #16
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I'm actually not sure art can exist, or at least exist well, without science. Think about the "tools" the artist uses...most of those wouldn't be without science, of at least a basic sort. Painters are constantly working for pigments which won't fade and surfaces which won't rot, the guitars, pianos, etc., musicians use have to be capable of consistantly producing certain sounds. This is kind of a blending of the science and the art. We are getting to to point that the art and the science are becoming further and further apart, but many early scientists were also artists (who else would ask the necessary questions?), and vice versa.

Not sure I'm making much sense...it's late.
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Old 02-18-2005, 02:08 AM   #17
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Didn't Einstein once say that "Imagination is more important than knowledge, because knowledge tells what was whereas imagination tells what will be,"?

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Well, obviously I'm pretty damn biased on this because I'm an artist. The fact of the matter is that we need both art and science. We need art to keep up in touch with our emotions and for some of us it's part of our spiritual lives (this is true of a fair number of Catholic religious, heck, one of the world's best art historians, Sister Wendy Becket, is a nun). We need science to do research on disease, to treat the sick, without science we'll never have a cure for AIDS or cancer or any of these horrible diseases.
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If I had to get rid of Einstein or Bono, I'd get rid of Einstein. I know, I lack appreciation for E=mc2.
If you got rid of Einstein, the transistors in the computer you're using would cease to exist.
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Old 02-18-2005, 06:59 AM   #20
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I refuse to choose between the two.
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The world would be so dull w/ out art

But as far as I know art has never saved any lives, so just on that basis I'd say science
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The world would be so dull w/ out art

But as far as I know art has never saved any lives, so just on that basis I'd say science
I disagree. Art has saved many lives. There's documented stories of individuals that were born severely handicapped and had no means of communication and then one day they discovered art and found ways to communicate through drawing or painting.

There have been suicidal individuals that have turned their lives around due to a song, movie, or a book.

It may not be measurable like science but it's there.

I for one owe my life to art.
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That's so true, I didn't think of that
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I disagree. Art has saved many lives. There's documented stories of individuals that were born severely handicapped and had no means of communication and then one day they discovered art and found ways to communicate through drawing or painting.

There have been suicidal individuals that have turned their lives around due to a song, movie, or a book.

It may not be measurable like science but it's there.

I for one owe my life to art.
I agree with BVS on this. The ability to express ones self through art is an important intangible that is often under estimated.
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I refuse to choose between the two.
I'm glad someone said this. I dont understand the world you and those like you - other scientists - live in, but I see it. Scientists might not understand the world artists live in, but you see it.

We all share it. Corny, no?
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Didn't Einstein once say that "Imagination is more important than knowledge, because knowledge tells what was whereas imagination tells what will be,"?
Einstein said a lot of things:

"Do not worry about your difficulties in mathematics; I can assure you that mine are still greater."

"Only two things are infinite -- the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
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Einstein said a lot of things:
"Only two things are infinite -- the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
Unfortunately, this is very true.
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Artists.....like wizards......have a tendency to view from a worldly perspective rather than just a small perimeter of space and time.

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I would argue that the best scientists are artists in their own right. I would also argue that the worst artists are philosophy majors.



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All artists are pot smoking hippies who are a drain on our welfare state. We should drown them at birth.
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