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Old 10-06-2006, 01:48 PM   #76
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Butt's Up isn't allowed at our school. Imagine the students' hidden delight at hearing their teachers say the phrase "Butt's Up."



ah, the joys of being a pre-teen in the late 1980s ... i remember playing it out of sight of the recess monitors, so i don't think it was condoned, but i don't remember it being explicitly forbidden.

unlike Guns 'n Roses, who were officially banned from my elementary school.
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i loved "Burn Ball/Butt's Up" as well.

where you throw a tennis ball at the wall, and you have to grab it with one hand, and if you drop it you have to run and touch the wall before someone else grabs the ball and throws it to the wall (or hits you) and if the ball hits the wall before you do you have to stand in front of the wall and someone gets to peg you in the ass with said tennis ball.

ah, 6th grade memories ... i was uncharacteristically aggressive playing Burn Ball ...
the memories indeed! We used to play this game here also but we called it "Suicide" instead. I was never really good at it!

Must have been interesting at the dinner table:

Mom: "So Billy, how was school today?

Billy: Awesome! Today, Joe and Tony taught me how to suicide!

Mom:
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We played Vomit in high school for exam reviews. Basically, the class is in teams, the teacher asks a question, and once your team knows the answer a runner has to run to the front and write VOMIT on the board. Then if you answer it right, you get the points. It sounds stupid, but it's hilarious because people never remember to write VOMIT and always write the answer to the question! The German classes caught on, but had to write the German word for vomit. Our American Government teacher uped the ante by starting "Projectile Vomit" where the other teams were allowed to throw large wads of paper at the runners. Before long, projectile paper wads were loaded with apples, pens, textbooks....crazy shit!
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it is shocking this hasn't gotten more coverage.


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PHILADELPHIA, Pennsylvania (Reuters) -- One of the girls who died in Pennsylvania's Amish schoolhouse massacre asked the killer to shoot her first in an apparent bid to save the younger girls, a woman who spoke to the victim's family said Friday.

Rita Rhoads, a nurse-midwife who delivered 13-year-old Marian Fisher as well as another victim, said Fisher appealed to Charles Carl Roberts IV to shoot her first because she thought it might allow younger girls to survive.

Rhoads said she did not know whether Fisher in fact was shot first. Roberts shot 10 girls ages 6 to 13, killing five of them and then himself in Monday's rampage. (Watch "shocked and sad" Amish express forgiveness -- 2:46)

Fisher's 11-year-old sister, Barbie, appealed to Roberts to shoot her next, Rhoads said. Barbie survived and was in Children's Hospital of Philadelphia recovering from shoulder, hand and leg injuries.

"Barbie has been talking and she said Marian said, 'Shoot me first,"' Rhoads said. "Apparently what she was trying to do was to save the younger girls."

Barbie, who attended her sister's funeral Thursday before returning to the hospital, gave details of her ordeal to relatives including her grandfather, who told Rhoads, the midwife said in a telephone interview.

"It was very courageous of the girls to offer themselves," Rhoads said. "God was really present to give the girls that kind of courage.
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Golly! I should give you the specifics of my school site so you can assist me in improving my award-winning school district! What a help you must be to your own children's teachers. They must just love to see the phone message from you on their mailbox at the end of another long day countering the values you've tried to instill in your kids.

Hmm. So these are the things that make crazy white men and boys want to kill little girls and their principals and classmates? These are the things schools teach that drive these whackjobs to kill? The parents of thses kids (and grown men) tried, but the schools failed them in a game of dogdeball?!
Thanks for both the personal attack and for putting words in my mouth.
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You're welcome for both.

You said that you'd need to know specifics of my school before you could tell me what I was doing wrong. I sure appreciated that.

Then, since this thread is about a grown man who killed little schoolgirls he didn't even know, you were somehow able to link those murders to both the outlawing of dodgeball and multiculturalism.

I'm only helping you clarify your message.
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This is sad. Have you guys heard the story of Rachel Joy Scott?
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You're welcome for both.

You said that you'd need to know specifics of my school before you could tell me what I was doing wrong. I sure appreciated that.

Then, since this thread is about a grown man who killed little schoolgirls he didn't even know, you were somehow able to link those murders to both the outlawing of dodgeball and multiculturalism.

I'm only helping you clarify your message.
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that a parent's job isn't made all the more harder when schools... discourage the very same values a parent may be trying to instill into their child.
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Like what? What am I discouraging that you're trying to instill?
I want concrete examples.
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That's a little tough. It would depend on which grade, in which school district in which part of the country.
...asking for the specifics of where YOU work? It's an acknowledgment that educational curriculums are controlled locally and are not uniform throughout the country. For all I know, you live and work in Kansas where they DO teach Intelligent Design. In addition, I don't have a problem with "sex ed" in high school, but in the 2nd grade, that's another matter. Maybe you misread my post, but it says what it says.

And I thought it was pretty clear that our discussion had sidetracked into "parenting in today's culture." I can't think of a classroom in America that could possibly be more insulated from multiculturalism, aids education or the debate over evolution, than that little schoolroom in Lancaster County. It's preposterous to think I was making a direct link.

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Multiculturalism-- Don't get me wrong, I think a foreign language class should be encouraged, I'm talking about the anti-Western bias and the subtle rewriting of history that's crept into some text books. "Taking God out of schools" is about more than just school prayer. The role of religion in our county's history has really been de-emphasized in recent years.
Really? As a history teacher I haven't noticed that at all. In fact, my juniors and I just got done talking about the Second Great Awakening and it's lasting impact on 19th and 20th century America.

Also, could you please provide an example of rewritten history that has diminished religion's role?
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That's a little tough. It would depend on which grade, in which school district in which part of the country.
This is what I was referring to.
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How is....

"It would depend on which grade, in which school district in which part of the country."

...asking for the specifics of where YOU work? It's an acknowledgment that educational curriculums are controlled locally and are not uniform throughout the country. For all I know, you live and work in Kansas where they DO teach Intelligent Design. In addition, I don't have a problem with "sex ed" in high school, but in the 2nd grade, that's another matter. Maybe you misread my post, but it says what it says.
Let's put it in context:

martha: "What am I discouraging that you're trying to instill? I want concrete examples."

INDY500: That's a little tough. It would depend on which grade, in which school district in which part of the country...

So, you did essentially say that you would need specifics to give the "concrete examples."
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I am amazed and impressed with the level of forgiveness of the Amish community. Apparently, they have embraced the wife and children of the man who committed the horrific murders on their community. They have even setup a fund to help his family. Remarkable display of compassion in the midst of such anguish and heartbreak.

Anyone know the basics of their doctrine, cause this ability to forgive and reach out is stunning especially in our vengeful society today.
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I am amazed and impressed with the level of forgiveness of the Amish community. Apparently, they have embraced the wife and children of the man who committed the horrific murders on their community. They have even setup a fund to help his family. Remarkable display of compassion in the midst of such anguish and heartbreak.

Anyone know the basics of their doctrine, cause this ability to forgive and reach out is stunning especially in our vengeful society today.
I've felt the same about their level of forgiveness. In this day in age its rare and I think very very welcome.
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As they reported over and over again, they are not a violent nor angry people, so this makes complete sense. Every Amish person I've known has great morals and values, is extremely polite, etc.
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I am amazed and impressed with the level of forgiveness of the Amish community. Apparently, they have embraced the wife and children of the man who committed the horrific murders on their community. They have even setup a fund to help his family. Remarkable display of compassion in the midst of such anguish and heartbreak.

Anyone know the basics of their doctrine, cause this ability to forgive and reach out is stunning especially in our vengeful society today.
The Amish have very similar doctrine to that of conservative Christians. They take what the Bible says literally. Ephesians 4:32 says, "Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you." I would say they believe God has total sovereignty, as in He has everything planned out and everything happens for a purpose.

I pick up an Amish girl every Saturday morning on the way to work (we work together). She said this morning that she felt horrible for the Robert's family. She said everyone is upset about the girls, but it happened and nothing can change it. She said the one 6 year old girl was brain dead and brought home to die, but then noticed that she was beginning to respond to light so they took her back to the hospital. I waited on a lot of Amish today and most of them seem like their normal selves.
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