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Old 12-30-2006, 04:46 PM   #106
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Are we talking about Saddam or about capital punishment in general? I'm confused here
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Maybe we should start posting pictures and videos of all the terrors Saddam caused and see how people feel. Saddam was pure evil and he deserved to pay the absolute highest price for his crimes. I pray that I never live in a country where the murderer and torturer of millions of innocent lives is treated just as lightly as the murderer of one.
Noone here is supporting Saddam's atrocious acts. What people here are saying is they are upset by unnatural death. Regardless of who is doing it, a dictator, government, drive-by, it doesn't matter. People are upset by the constant killing, the steady stream of blood that seems to never end. Blood will never wash away the tears of the loads of victims, victims' families and friends, etc.
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Old 12-30-2006, 05:14 PM   #108
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Noone here is supporting Saddam's atrocious acts. What people here are saying is they are upset by unnatural death. Regardless of who is doing it, a dictator, government, drive-by, it doesn't matter. People are upset by the constant killing, the steady stream of blood that seems to never end. Blood will never wash away the tears of the loads of victims, victims' families and friends, etc.
Thank you

This is kind of what I was trying to say, only I blather on and never get to the point.
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Blood will never wash away the tears of the loads of victims, victims' families and friends, etc.
Exactly.
Besides, I cannot see how the execution of Saddam can help improve the whole mess with Iraq. Enlighten me.
I can easily see though how it can complicate things... The guy has ALREADY become a martyr for many...
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I hated Saddam, but I'm opposed to capital punishment, and I don't think this is a step in the right direction for Iraq. He was already out of power.
Exactly. I don't understand all these comments about "a tyrant's power is now over". People, Saddam has been an impotent windbag with no tangible power since 2003. This execution achieved nothing.

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so stalin was right.

when 1 man dies it's a tragedy, when a million die, it's a statistic.
WTF does that have to do with anything?

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Maybe we should start posting pictures and videos of all the terrors Saddam caused and see how people feel. Saddam was pure evil and he deserved to pay the absolute highest price for his crimes. I pray that I never live in a country where the murderer and torturer of millions of innocent lives is treated just as lightly as the murderer of one.
Frankly, I find your implication that those of us who do not support the use of execution as "justice" for Saddam also do not care for his victims to be disgusting, reprehensible, and demonstrative of a total lack of comprehension of any of the discussion that has taken place here. Is it not clear that if we consider taking even Saddam's life to be wrong, the deaths of multitudes of innocent people pains us to the depths of our very being? I have shed tears and been unable to stomach watching footage of those killed and their families coming to terms with what happened. I have not and will not shed a tear for Saddam, but I strongly oppose taking human life or taking delight in the loss of human life in all circumstances.

I am frustrated by the lack of nuance some people here seem to have. Respecting Saddam's basic humanity does in no way respect or condone his acts.
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those pictures of the execution, that you stumble upon everywhere on the internet at the moment, are very telling.

one barbaric government has been replaced by a new barbaric government. the spiral of revenge and bloodthirst will continue.
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those pictures of the execution, that you stumble upon everywhere on the internet at the moment, are very telling.

one barbaric government has been replaced by a new barbaric government. the spiral of revenge and bloodthirst will continue.
I agree, and killing him did not stop the violence in Iraq
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of course not.

and also, i actually find those pictures embarrassing for the u.s., britain and the "new" iraq.
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those pictures of the execution, that you stumble upon everywhere on the internet at the moment, are very telling.

one barbaric government has been replaced by a new barbaric government. the spiral of revenge and bloodthirst will continue.
All I have seen is a picture on Wikipedia of the noose being hung around Saddam's neck. It made me nauseous. I don't care what a person has done, no-one deserves that. Treatment such as that is subhuman and reprehensible.

And for those who like to make completely inaccurate allegations about the character of myself and others who share my views, I ask you this: if I feel nauseous over this, just how deeply repulsed and saddened must I be by the deaths of innocent people? Think about it, for goodness' sake.
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Frankly, I find your implication that those of us who do not support the use of execution as "justice" for Saddam also do not care for his victims to be disgusting, reprehensible, and demonstrative of a total lack of comprehension of any of the discussion that has taken place here. Is it not clear that if we consider taking even Saddam's life to be wrong, the deaths of multitudes of innocent people pains us to the depths of our very being? I have shed tears and been unable to stomach watching footage of those killed and their families coming to terms with what happened. I have not and will not shed a tear for Saddam, but I strongly oppose taking human life or taking delight in the loss of human life in all circumstances.

I am frustrated by the lack of nuance some people here seem to have. Respecting Saddam's basic humanity does in no way respect or condone his acts.
Axver, you and I might not get along often, but this is
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When did anyone care about humanity, or even him period?


If your into evolution, then were still a planet of apes, only we don't look like our cousins in the Zoo.
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When did anyone care about humanity, or even him period?

If your into evolution, then were still a planet of apes, only we don't look like our cousins in the Zoo.
Your arguments lacked substance to begin with, Justin. This post really takes the biscuit.
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My mom went to have lunch with s local priest. He talked about the execution and told her that no matter how bad anyone is you should always forgive. My mom agreed with him That he is a human being just like all of us.
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Frankly, I find your implication that those of us who do not support the use of execution as "justice" for Saddam also do not care for his victims to be disgusting, reprehensible, and demonstrative of a total lack of comprehension of any of the discussion that has taken place here. Is it not clear that if we consider taking even Saddam's life to be wrong, the deaths of multitudes of innocent people pains us to the depths of our very being? I have shed tears and been unable to stomach watching footage of those killed and their families coming to terms with what happened. I have not and will not shed a tear for Saddam, but I strongly oppose taking human life or taking delight in the loss of human life in all circumstances.

I am frustrated by the lack of nuance some people here seem to have. Respecting Saddam's basic humanity does in no way respect or condone his acts.
Nicely said, Axver.
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