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Old 11-10-2004, 02:17 PM   #16
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Dude....don't disrupt the bashing with facts.....please....
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So when does the Guantanamo Gulag begins interning all liberals, pro-choicers and homosexuals?
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You wouldn't want an Attorney General to read, understand and apply the law now, would you?
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Funny, I don't remember Alberto Gonzales being on any ballot.

And besides, once "the will of the ppl." starts endorsing torture, it needs to be rejected. Or perhaps you dig that kind of stuff.
Yes. I'm appalled at the guy's position on torture. I can't believe it. Color me outraged.
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There's the "law" then there's morality and decency, and there's what the US professes to stand for.

Nothing justified what went on at Abu Ghraib, and nothing will ever change my mind about that. I'm not saying anyone else here "endorses" what went on there, just to make that clear.
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Old 11-10-2004, 02:29 PM   #21
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If someone can prove to me there is a link between this man and what went on in that prison I will be the first one to stand up and call for the congress to not approve him.

Quotes, taken out of context, for the purpose of inciting people against him are not fair.

I have not reached an opinion on him because I have not done my own homework on him......
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is it the will of the ppl that GW was elected?
being that he was elected..does he have the right to appoint ppl?

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Yes. I'm appalled at the guy's position on torture. I can't believe it. Color me outraged.
Could we please have some evidence that Alberto Gonzales endorces torture, aside from Sharky's own interpretation of his beliefs?
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Sure thing.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Jun13.html

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I don't care if the guy is white, black or green. If he is bad for the job, he is bad for the job. Colin Powell didn't become Secretary of State because he was black.

As Thurgood Marshall said about Clarence Thomas's appointment "A black snake will bite you just the same as a white snake."
I was going to say that but you beat me to it! We need to get to the point where we look past race and focus on qualifications.
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So you would oppose affirmative action then?
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I see nothing wrong with that - in very, very particular circumstances to cause brief and intense pain to a single guilty man that he may stop at any moment by releasing critical information is better than sitting back and waiting for thousands to be murdered.

This type of santioned torture must have total oversight and endorsement because like it or not it will probably wind up happening, and if it does then there must be accountability.
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So you would oppose affirmative action then?
I'm on the fence. Not all affirmative action is about race, but yes I believe some of it is unfair. It's too complex an issue to say "yes i support it" or "no its awful make it go away".
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So we're tossing out the whole "innocent until proven guilty" bit, then?

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is it the will of the ppl that GW was elected?
being that he was elected..does he have the right to appoint ppl?

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Jesus, the guy wins one election and you're ready to appoint him king.

He has the right to nominate ppl. Those nominations need to be confirmed by the Senate. He doesn't have the power to just put anyone in there that he pleases, no matter what the ppl's will is.
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