deep
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redkat said:
Did you mean genders?
i was referring to this
anitram said:
wonder today about the racists of the south.
redkat said:
Did you mean genders?
anitram said:
wonder today about the racists of the south.
Moonlit_Angel said:
And yet those groups have yet to show exactly how that'd be true...as always.
Angela
deep said:Is not it obvious,
Fundamentalist married men have every reason to feel threatened.
They fear that there is an alternative for their subservient domineered wives to consider,
an empathetic, compassionate, non-chauvinistic life partner.
Irvine511 said:
now, what if Einstein were gay?
No I support gay marriage because frankly it is a choice of individuals and it provides a legal framework and supports for long term relationships. There is no power on this earth be it government or religious establishment that should prevent two individuals of legal age and of sound mind from having legitimacy and protections for their union.martha said:So you support gay marriage because it pisses off Muslims?
Please tell me I'm misunderstanding you. Please.
A_Wanderer said:Homosexual Marriage is a display of the decadant values of the west, it runs contrary to strongly held religious beliefs and justifies violence agains the west for immorality.
There is the important distinction that (most) Christian fundamentalists are rallying to save you from hell, (some of) the Islamic fundamentalists would be trying to send you there - quirks of history and politics. Whichever way you cut it though legitimizing gay rights notably through marriage and adoption would prevent theocracy at home and subvert it abroad (same goes for womens rights ~ when you start empowering significant sections of humanity it makes it very difficult to supress them again), and the inherent reactionary nature of the fundamentalists would ensure that such a change would ilicit a response and the free speech that you enjoy would guarantee that once those rights are fully established the fundamentalists real bigotry would be even more visible, most people are not died in the wool bigots, many minds could be changed.Irvine511 said:
Jerry Falwell or Osama Bin Laden?
when you look at the basic blueprints of their ideologies, they sound so similar.
and this is why many of us fear the US slowly evolving (or devolving) into a Christian Iran.
with nukes. lots of 'em.
could it happen? probably not, but damned if i'm not going to throw a fit every time i see fundamentalist values -- be they muslim or christian.
A_Wanderer said:
I was not declaring support on the basis that it pisses off all muslims any more than I was saying that it should be supported because it pisses off all christians. I suppose that the nuance of islamist is consistantly lost on people - the term is not loaded and is in wide circulation, the entire point of it is too highlight the distinction between the hardcore bastards like the Taliban, Al Qaeda, Wahabi Extremists, Muslim Brotherhood etc. who would establish their own theocracy around the world through violent means and the vast ammount of regular people and religious leaders who just want to live a good life and worship God in a peaceful manner.