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Old 02-07-2006, 10:36 AM   #1
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http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060206/43371626.html

'Earth in for another "ice age" in mid-century - scientist'
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Drudge.

anything to keep those pesky enviro-fascists off our backs.
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Yes, please only cite science that keeps in line with traditional environmental dogma.
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Yes, please only cite science that keeps in line with traditional environmental dogma.


and whenever possible, confuse the issue and distract with shiny objects that distract from mountains of evidence.
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Ignoring some evidence to focus on select evidence doesn't lend credibility to the argument.

This is not the first time scientific evidence has been presented disputing the notion that man-made climate change is occurring.
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Ignoring some evidence to focus on select evidence doesn't lend credibility to the argument.

This is not the first time scientific evidence has been presented disputing the notion that man-made climate change is occurring.


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Ignoring some evidence to focus on select evidence doesn't lend credibility to the argument.

This is not the first time scientific evidence has been presented disputing the notion that man-made climate change is occurring.


you're incorrect on the 2nd part.

there's a general consensus that climate change is due to human activity. that's not a question.

the question is how much and to what extent.
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you're incorrect on the 2nd part.

there's a general consensus that climate change is due to human activity. that's not a question.

the question is how much and to what extent.
No, that is incorrect.

The general consensus is politically driven, selective highlighting of scientific data.

Last year, we had a thread about the political pressures placed on scientists who do not automatically accept the "general consensus".
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Well, as far as I can tell there's no new evidence nor research involved here--just some random Russian astronomer proclaiming that it's gonna happen....?
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No, that is incorrect.

The general consensus is politically driven, selective highlighting of scientific data.

Last year, we had a thread about the political pressures placed on scientists who do not automatically accept the "general consensus".


no, you are incorrect.

the consensus, as expressed in 2001 by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and the National Academy of Sciences, and recently confirmed by a joint statement of the G8 academies of science, is that nearly all the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities; most "evidence" to the contrary is usually politically influenced and designed to give certain people "ammunition" to help them ignore this overwhelming evidence so they continue to consume fossil fuels at current levels.

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It's widely accepted that solar variation has had an effect on the climate in the past, and will no doubt have effects in the future. However, I'd be curious to hear about this astronomer's motivation for taking such a strong stance on this.
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However, I'd be curious to hear about this astronomer's motivation for taking such a strong stance on this.
Got his name in the news? :shurg:
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Got his name in the news? :shurg:
No, I mean't how he's supporting his conclusions. It's unfortunate that it's not included in the link.
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