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Old 02-02-2006, 11:08 AM   #106
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I don't want to *ban* it. But if I owned a newspaper I might not want to put it in the newspaper. Other newspapers could make their choices.
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Old 02-02-2006, 11:10 AM   #107
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"Muslims of the world, be reasonable," said the editor-in-chief of the weekly independent newspaper Al-Shihan in an editorial alongside the cartoons, including the one showing the Muslim religion's founder wearing a bomb-shaped turban.
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"What brings more prejudice against Islam, these caricatures or pictures of a hostage-taker slashing the throat of his victim in front of the cameras or a suicide bomber who blows himself up during a wedding ceremony in Amman?" wrote Jihad Momani.
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,...889584,00.html

Well Jordan seems to be evolving from the 13th century.
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Hah, and who said martyrdom is an Islamic thing?
What has this got to do with martyrdom?
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why does it seem so strange to you that people respond to humiliation of their religion through boycotts and protests? how can you possibly blame them for doing so? i am not really much of a muslim but this whole thing smacks of arrogance and self-righteousness. it is those people's right to protest and boycott as much as it is the satirists right to express himself.

this is about making choices. if you purposefully degrade a religion, a nation or whatever, it should be obvious that there will be consequences. these people have a right to boycott whatever they like, get over it already.
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Yes they have a right to boycott and protest, but the papers also have a right ot publish someones expression of work
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why does it seem so strange to you that people respond to humiliation of their religion through boycotts and protests? how can you possibly blame them for doing so? i am not really much of a muslim but this whole thing smacks of arrogance and self-righteousness. it is those people's right to protest and boycott as much as it is the satirists right to express himself.

this is about making choices. if you purposefully degrade a religion, a nation or whatever, it should be obvious that there will be consequences. these people have a right to boycott whatever they like, get over it already.
Well, "humiliation" of religion takes place every day, even here. Some respond with guns and death threats.

Is that what is needed for others to respect sacred beliefs?
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Well, "humiliation" of religion takes place every day, even here. Some respond with guns and death threats.

Is that what is needed for others to respect sacred beliefs?
of course not. but what has been objected against and criticized during the course of the thread was kuwait's call for boycott against denmark. i obviously dont support violence of any kind, but i support people's rights to stand by their beliefs. dont get me wrong, i am in no way saying that the satire should have been banned, i fully support free speech. however, it was provocative on purpose and the reaction is not the least bit shocking. it is all action-reaction.

no one would blame you for not buying a doom metal CD because it is against your beliefs. no one would blame you for not buying gay-porn cause it is not your cup of tea. similarly, no one can be blamed because they dont buy stuff made by people who degrade their beliefs.
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So are we supposed to live in a PC world then. People get offended all the time. Jesus has been degraded, Buddha has I am sure, but you dont see millions of people taking up arms over that do you.
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why does it seem so strange to you that people respond to humiliation of their religion through boycotts and protests? how can you possibly blame them for doing so? i am not really much of a muslim but this whole thing smacks of arrogance and self-righteousness. it is those people's right to protest and boycott as much as it is the satirists right to express himself.

this is about making choices. if you purposefully degrade a religion, a nation or whatever, it should be obvious that there will be consequences. these people have a right to boycott whatever they like, get over it already.
Wait a minute here. A privately owned newspaper posted pictures that offended muslims. According to Danish laws, the government has no right to interfere with their decision.

How does this justify a boycott of an entire country?
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Wait a minute here. A privately owned newspaper posted pictures that offended muslims. According to Danish laws, the government has no right to interfere with their decision.

How does this justify a boycott of an entire country?
well, if i decide to boycott a country, it is my decision isnt it? why would anyone need to justify NOT buying from denmark? what, do you think people would just boycott for the heck of it if they were not truly offended? if i had a store and hung a poster on the wall that depicted, i dunno, jesus eating babies or something, wouldnt a christian find that offensive and perhaps not buy from my store? would he/she have to further justify this decision?
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why does it seem so strange to you that people respond to humiliation of their religion through boycotts and protests? how can you possibly blame them for doing so? i am not really much of a muslim but this whole thing smacks of arrogance and self-righteousness. it is those people's right to protest and boycott as much as it is the satirists right to express himself.

this is about making choices. if you purposefully degrade a religion, a nation or whatever, it should be obvious that there will be consequences. these people have a right to boycott whatever they like, get over it already.
It's one thing to say "Islam is based on irrational premises" and another thing to draw a picture of Mohammed with a bomb on his head. One is based on philosophical beliefs, and the other is solely to insult Muslims. I'm not sure freedom of speech is really the issue here, even though some people are saying it is.
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http://www.youtube.com/w/Comedy-Cent...arlos%20Mencia

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Wait a minute here. A privately owned newspaper posted pictures that offended muslims. According to Danish laws, the government has no right to interfere with their decision.

How does this justify a boycott of an entire country?
You're right, they shouldn't be boycotting an entire country. They could always send people to protest outside of the offices of the newspaper that published the cartoons.
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well, if i decide to boycott a country, it is my decision isnt it? why would anyone need to justify NOT buying from denmark? what, do you think people would just boycott for the heck of it if they were not truly offended? if i had a store and hung a poster on the wall that depicted, i dunno, jesus eating babies or something, wouldnt a christian find that offensive and perhaps not buy from my store? would he/she have to further justify this decision?
It is totally your decision.

But how do you think the reaction would be if it was the other way around - on a national level? If an Islamic newspaper had printed a picture like the one you just described, would the entire Christian world boycott that country?

As someone pointed out in this thread, jews are being humiliated and offended every single day in many Islamic newspapers. Why isn't that considered equally wrong in these countries?
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