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Old 02-03-2006, 05:35 PM   #181
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These people are sickening. God will send them to hell and suffer in punishment by making them Homosexuals.

could God be that cruel?
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Well in the "Bible" he has shown his wrath.
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Those are some ugly, ugly pictures.

But there is a significant difference.

The pictures you posted speak to what God will supposedly do.

The pictures Justin24 posted talk about what some Muslims are threatening to do.


when you're the recipient of such hate, and you know that these signs are made from highly dubious readings of scripture clearly informed by pathological hatred, it really doesn't make much of a difference.
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could God be that cruel?

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Old 02-03-2006, 05:45 PM   #185
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Cruel mabey to siner's like the people holding the sign.
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when you're the recipient of such hate, and you know that these signs are made from highly dubious readings of scripture clearly informed by pathological hatred, it really doesn't make much of a difference.
Good point. I take it you looked up the Scripture references on the signs. While the Luke 13:5 passage is an odd paraphrase of "But unless you repent, you too will all perish", the Malachi reference makes no sense at all.
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Good point. I take it you looked up the Scripture references on the signs. While the Luke 13:5 passage is an odd paraphrase of "But unless you repent, you too will all perish", the Malachi reference makes no sense at all.


well, no, i didn't look it up (probably should have), i'll credit Dread and Melon to informing me enough about the gay-related passages, combined with the fairly safe assumption that anyone willing to hold such a sign probably isn't terribly interested in careful scriptural readings, to make the guess that the theology was not just hateful, but poorly supported.

i do support, however, their rights to wave those signs, and i ultimately support the right of the venal signs selected from what i'm sure are large protests in London. it's simply safer to defend ALL forms of speech, no matter how offensive, because you firstly remove the risk of setting double standards, and as A_W points out, the fact that someone can tell me i will burn in hell gives me the right to the them that i'll look foward to seeing them there.

on another note, i would like to be more conversant in scripture. i am consistently amazed at the level of detail that you and many others in here have such discussions.
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The God I believe in hates hate.
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Even threatening Assassination on the PM of Denmark. Yes they have a right to wave signs also even if it is vile.
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This one is actually comical.

She must be a great supporter of: captivity, confinement, imprisonment, incarceration, limitation, servitude, slavery, subjection, suppression.
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on another note, i would like to be more conversant in scripture. i am consistently amazed at the level of detail that you and many others in here have such discussions.
I would encourage pursuing study in some form. Some studies may tell you what you want to hear, others won't. But anything that gives you a disciplined framework for reading Scripture would be beneficial.
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these pictures are vile, no question, but i would guess that they are far from representative of mainstream muslim thought both in europe and in the muslim world, and, really, are they much different (and as poorly representative of the whole) from the following:



God hates Fags has nowhere near the clout of Hizb-ut Tahir or other militant Islamic groups.
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This is from the BBC on the whole incident. Some very good information to read on.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4674628.stm
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This one is actually comical.

She must be a great supporter of: captivity, confinement, imprisonment, incarceration, limitation, servitude, slavery, subjection, suppression.
You cannot help wondering: What is this person doing in Britain anyway? Why not settle down in a nice brutal-dictator-led not free country and be happy?
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The Serrano photo is not being circulated of the front pages of many countries’ newspapers.

The cartoon Wanderer described would never be defended by me as free speech.

The "Corpus Christie" production, if what I have read is correct

'the opening scene is an actor portraying Christ having sex with an apostle'

will not be defended as freedom of expression

I accept limits,

and yes
I know it is a slippery slope
Do you believe in God?

Who is the arbiter of this? I shouldn't have had Jesus having sex with Mary, it should have been with a young boy to highlight the issue of paedophile priests in the Catholic Church.

As for such a scene as Jesus having sex with an apostle, so what? an awful lot of men throughout the ages have used power and clout for sexual advantage why are we to believe that Jesus would be any different?
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