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Old 04-23-2003, 05:02 PM   #16
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I think there is plenty of money behind the Arab lobby - whether they choose to support the Palestinians is another question.
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i don't see american foreign policy shifting as the result of an arab lobby though.
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Which raises a good question - why? Is the US government resistent to the lobbying efforts of Arab nations or to what extent does the Arab lobby pursue the Palestinian cause?
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Which raises a good question - why? Is the US government resistent to the lobbying efforts of Arab nations or to what extent does the Arab lobby pursue the Palestinian cause?
It's because the U.S. probably perceives Arabs as unrightful "invaders" of the "Promised Land," which belongs to the Jews as the Old Testament so tells us.

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melon: i don't think that.. well maybe that's one effect, but i don't think arab countries lobby for palestinensians - look how they treat palestinensian minorities in their own countries.

A mayor reason to support Palestine might be to hurt Isreal - and for that it's "perfect" the way it is now

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Old 04-24-2003, 04:50 PM   #21
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where do they treat Palestinians badly... The only tension I can recall is the tension caused when Muslim Palestinians supported Muslim Lebanese during the Lebanese civil war. The Palestinians are not necessarily treated badly in the mid-east, they assimilate very well actually from what I'm told. The problem is the lack of support some arab countries have given to the oppressed Palestinians in favour of accepting kickbacks from the U.S. to keep peace with Israel.


Nevertheless, clearly the arabs have little control over what happens in the white house... The lobbies are funded poorly and are not given much attention by the U.S. government (unlike the powerful Israeli Lobbies)

A major focus of the lobby is the Palestinian struggle as well as difficulties in other countries including Iraq.
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A Big Divide (ABC NEWS)

The Israel lobby in the United States is a loose network of individuals and organizations, of which the most significant groups are AIPAC and the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, an umbrella encompassing 54 Jewish groups.

Although AIPAC does not give money as a political action committee, its supporters do. With a budget of nearly $20 million, the organization's publicity literature says AIPAC activists "through more than 2,000 meetings with members of Congress" helped pass "more than 100 pro-Israel legislative initiatives a year."

The organization also takes credit for procuring nearly $3 billion of annual U.S. aid to Israel, 75 percent of which is military aid.

According to records from the Center for Responsive Politics, AIPAC spends more than $1 million on lobbying politicians annually. CRP figures show that in 1999-2000, the top 35 pro-Israel PACs contributed $1.9 million to federal candidates, of which 59 percent went to Democrats and 41 percent went to Republicans.


Figures on Arab-American or Muslim-American campaign contributions are hard to come by, according to CRP spokesman Steven Weiss, because the extent of their contributions are relatively small.

In the years 1998-2000, for instance, the CRP lists only six Arab-American and American-Muslim PACs, of which two made total contributions of zero dollars. The highest contribution for the period from the Arab American Leadership PAC was $99,329.

"Lobbying is a narrow focus of our functions," says Agha Saeed, chairman of the California-based American Muslim Alliance, whose associated PAC the American Muslim Alliance PAC recorded a zero contribution to federal candidates in 1998-2000. "We provide civic education for the community, leadership training to educate new citizens and youth training on policy issues."

Officials from the Republican Party deny that pressure from lobbies on either side influences its members' policies on the Middle East.
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Of course they don't treat them as badly as they are treated in Israel!
I just read about human rights violations of arab countries with palestinensians against them.



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