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Old 04-30-2005, 10:15 PM   #61
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In Australian, "partner" used to me a person in a same sex relationship, once upon a time. The definition has loosened over time. Except with some old folks. I wouldn't recommend telling your grandfather you have a partner. loll.
Everyone I've known uses 'partner' to mean someone they're romantically involved with, not just a same sex relationship. I'm rather accustomed to it, as my aunt has never married my uncle, and they always use the term 'partner' - even around people of my grandmother's generation.

That said, even though they were the first members of my family to cross the ditch, they're still both from NZ. Maybe NZ's different.
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Old 04-30-2005, 10:19 PM   #62
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Also, I've been told by a few people that in the US, if you refer to someone as your 'partner', it means they're of the same sex as you - in other words, that you're gay. Any Americans want to confirm or deny this? I'd use 'partner' to refer to someone I'm romantically involved with but not married to. I hate the word 'girlfriend' because it sounds so 13-years-old, but I use it online now after a couple of Americans told me 'partner' makes me sound like I have a boyfriend.
I can't speak as an "American", but as a North American, the word "partner" now is used to express either "boyfriend" or "girlfriend" or even "spouse". It most definitely is not assumed to mean "same sex partner". At least not in my circle.
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That phrase is meant to mean something good in the US?

Oh, NOW I find out. I really want to know what's wrong with saying 'I was lucky' - or here, saying 'I wasn't lucky'.

Also, I've been told by a few people that in the US, if you refer to someone as your 'partner', it means they're of the same sex as you - in other words, that you're gay. Any Americans want to confirm or deny this? I'd use 'partner' to refer to someone I'm romantically involved with but not married to. I hate the word 'girlfriend' because it sounds so 13-years-old, but I use it online now after a couple of Americans told me 'partner' makes me sound like I have a boyfriend.
I've heard quite a few people from the UK and Ireland refer to their (opposite sex) signifcant others as their partner so its not something strange to me but yes, many Americans would think you were referring to a same sex partner.
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That said, even though they were the first members of my family to cross the ditch, they're still both from NZ. Maybe NZ's different.
Yes, well you have had a female PM, and we ..... we..... we..... haven't.
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Yes, well you have had a female PM, and we ..... we..... we..... haven't.
Two, actually, but I try to forget Jenny Shipley ever existed.
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Thanks to the North Americans for the info.

Might the understanding of 'partner' change with the region? The Americans who told me 'partner' is used for a same sex partner were from the south.
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That phrase is meant to mean something good in the US?

Oh, NOW I find out. I really want to know what's wrong with saying 'I was lucky' - or here, saying 'I wasn't lucky'.

Yup. Lucked out is a good thing. Now, shit outta luck is not a good thing (as you probably already figured out).

And slang isn't supposed to be easy for outsiders.
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Yup. Lucked out is a good thing. Now, shit outta luck is not a good thing (as you probably already figured out).

And slang isn't supposed to be easy for outsiders.
I'm shit outta luck when it comes to understanding your slang, it seems.
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I'm not sure if region has anything to do with it but anything is possible. I'm from California and partner is the word most of the gays/lesbians I know use to describe their signifcant others




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But in Canada, "lucked out" is a negative. Ain't language grand?
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But in Canada, "lucked out" is a negative. Ain't language grand?

I had no idea it had a different meaning in Canda. This thread has been very educational!
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OK, so let's get this straight (no pun intended): Canadians will call someone they are romantically involved with a partner, regardless of gender, and when the relationship ends, they have lucked out; meanwhile, an American gay man, upon meeting his partner, has lucked out.

Yeah, language is grand.
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By Jove, I think he's got it!!
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Sometimes "girlfriend" doesn't mean someone that you're romantically involved with in the US either. It can also mean a woman's female friend. It's more commonly used by older people though. If I am going over to a friend's house my grandma will say that I am going to my girlfriends house and she is always talking about her girlfriends from high school.

I bet most of you would be appaled if you heard me speak. I am from Southerrrrn California and you would probably like want to like strangle me like everytime I said like
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I see nothing wrong with girlfriend being used, I think that "partner" when used for dating heterosexuals in agonisingly bland (with the exception of de facto couples where it is more than boyfriend/girlfriend but not husband/wife).

And we say mate/mates for male friends ~ somehow a man cannot pull off calling his male friends 'boyfriends' without it coming of queer.
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