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Old 04-27-2005, 12:26 PM   #76
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Let me try to prove you wrong...

it looks like they are "in bed" together

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it looks like they are "in bed" together

A har har har, Deep.

Customary in Saudi Arabia.
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RIGHT-WING JIHADISTS CHIP AWAY AT AMERICANS' LIBERTY

Sat Apr 23, 7:58 PM ET

By Cynthia Tucker
Nothing quite like fair and balanced journalism...
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A har har har, Deep.

Customary in Saudi Arabia.
are you unaware that the Saudis are the major source of funding for BinLaden and most others that you call Jihadists?
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are you unaware that the Saudis are the major source of funding for BinLaden and most others that you call Jihadists?
I am well aware of the fact that Saudi men took advantage of our good relations with their country in order to get into our country. Ironically enough, the reason we are NOT attacking them is because they are the largest nation of oil supplies. Kind of contradicting with the mindless theory that we attacked Iraq for the oil.
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Kind of contradicting with the mindless theory that we attacked Iraq for the oil.



Oil was the main reason for military action against Iraq, a leading White House hawk has claimed, confirming the worst fears of those opposed to the US-led war.

The US deputy defence secretary, Paul Wolfowitz - who has already undermined Tony Blair's position over weapons of mass destruction (WMD) by describing them as a "bureaucratic" excuse for war - has now gone further by claiming the real motive was that Iraq is "swimming" in oil.

Comments were made by Mr Wolfowitz in an address to delegates at an Asian security summit in Singapore.

Asked why a nuclear power such as North Korea was being treated differently from Iraq, where hardly any weapons of mass destruction had been found, the deputy defence minister said: "Let's look at it simply. The most important difference between North Korea and Iraq is that economically, we just had no choice in Iraq. The country swims on a sea of oil."
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Q: I'm Satoru Suzuki with TV-Asahi of Japan. Mr. Secretary, eleven weeks have passed since the coalition forces moved into Iraq. Yet you've found no weapons of mass destruction in that country -- no convincing evidence yet. Given that, are you still convinced that you'll be able to find such weapons eventually and, in the absence of such weapons, how can you still justify the war, and what would you say to those critics in Japan and the rest of the world who've been saying that the war was mainly about oil?

Wolfowitz: Well, let me start with the last part. The notion that the war was ever about oil is a complete piece of nonsense. If the United States had been interested in Iraq's oil, it would have been very simple 12 years ago or any time in the last 12 years to simply do a deal with Saddam Hussein. We probably could have had any kind of preferred customer status we wanted if we'd been simply willing to drop our real concerns. Our real concerns focused on the threat posed by that country -- not only its weapons of mass destruction, but also its support for terrorism and, most importantly, the link between those two things. You said it's eleven weeks since our troops first crossed the Kuwaiti border, and coalition troops first entered Iraq, as though eleven weeks were a long time. Eleven weeks is a very short time. In fact, unfortunately, significant elements of the old regime are still out there shooting at Americans, killing Americans, threatening Iraqis. It is not yet a secure situation and I believe that probably influences to some extent the willingness of Iraqis to speak freely to us.
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so, you proved Wolfowitz is a liar.



and they appointed him to the Worldbank.

what a shame.

Worse administration in U. S. history.

Morally and ethically bankrupted.
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Kerry would have been a disaster. His anti-military record speaks for itself.
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So Deep... are you willing to admit that unless you're a flaming libbie, Cynthia Tucker's article is full of crap?
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Asked why a nuclear power such as North Korea was being treated differently from Iraq, where hardly any weapons of mass destruction had been found, the deputy defence minister said: "Let's look at it simply. The most important difference between North Korea and Iraq is that economically, we just had no choice in Iraq. The country swims on a sea of oil."
The most striking difference is one of self-preservation; that North Korea already has complete capability to blow away half our country.
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04-26-2005 09:26 PM - it is an op-ed 80s



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i posted it was an op-ed

Opinion - Editorial piece.


I think there are SOME valid comparisons.

"Fundamentalists" want their beliefs codified in law. They are very comfortable blurring line between religion (theirs) and state.
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i posted it was an op-ed

Opinion - Editorial piece.


I think there are SOME valid comparisons.

"Fundamentalists" want their beliefs codified in law. They are very comfortable blurring line between religion (theirs) and state.
I don't consider myself a fundamentalist, but prisons are not crowded by the crimes committed by fundamentalists. There are more important things to worry about than those who live their life for what they believe to be the teachings of the Son of God. Even if they express that through the ballot.
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i posted it was an op-ed

Opinion - Editorial piece.


I think there are SOME valid comparisons.

"Fundamentalists" want their beliefs codified in law. They are very comfortable blurring line between religion (theirs) and state.
And are they trying to force you to convert by law?
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And are they trying to force you to convert by law?
Not necessarily convert, but to live under their laws, yes, you bet your ass they are.
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