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Old 08-12-2005, 09:20 PM   #76
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Monday, August 15, 2005; A02

NASHVILLE, Aug. 14 -- Prominent conservative political and religious leaders called Sunday night for Senate approval of Supreme Court nominees who will vote to end the constitutional right to abortion, against recognition of same-sex marriage and for fewer restrictions on religious expression in public places.

The Supreme Court has sanctioned "the right to kill unborn children" and opened the door to legalized "homosexual sodomy," declared Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, which co-sponsored "Justice Sunday II."

James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, told the 2,200 mostly white people in Two Rivers Baptist Church: "It doesn't matter what we think. The court rules." The Supreme Court, he said in a video broadcast, has created "an oligarchy. It's the government by the few."

Rejected Supreme Court nominee Robert H. Bork warned that the high court has defined homosexuality as "a constitutional right . . . and once homosexuality is defined as a constitutional right, there is nothing the states can do about it, nothing the people can do about it."

The event was billed as an attempt to awaken Christians to the importance of appointments to the Supreme Court, but it also served as a televised rally supporting President Bush's nomination of John G. Roberts Jr. Conservative leaders here said they hope Roberts will be the first of three or more Supreme Court justices to be chosen by Bush, whose confirmations would fundamentally alter the high court.

House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) said "activist courts" are imposing "state-sanctioned same-sex marriage" and "partial-birth abortion" and are "ridding the public square of any mention of our nation's religious heritage" in what amounts to "judicial supremacy, judicial autocracy."

In Supreme Court rulings, DeLay said, "rights are invented out of whole cloth. Long-standing traditions are found to be unconstitutional. Moral values that have defined the progress of human civilization for millennia are cast aside in favor of those espoused by a handful of unelected, lifetime-appointed judges."

The mega-church just across the highway from the Grand Ole Opry was packed, and the speeches were televised to other churches, on some local and cable stations and on four Christian television networks.

DeLay was the star in a procession of speakers that included former senator Zell Miller (D-Ga.), Prison Fellowship Ministries founder Chuck Colson and Eagle Forum President Phyllis Schlafly.

Miller criticized the court because it "removed prayer from our public schools . . . legalized the barbaric killing of unborn babies, and it is ready to discard like an outdated hula hoop the universal institution of marriage between a man and a woman."

Speakers compared the civil rights movement of the 1960s to demands now by Christian groups for restoration of traditional morality. "It's time we move to the front of the bus and that we take command of the wheel," said William A. Donohue, president of the Catholic League.

Liberal religious leaders denounced Justice Sunday at a news conference. "The people who are putting together Justice Sunday seem to be far more interested in power than in justice," said Barry Lynn, head of Americans United for Separation of Church and State. "They now control the White House and the Congress. This is an effort to guarantee they will control the courts as well."

The purpose of Justice Sunday is to "help Christians who care about judicial activism to better understand what judges who legislate from the bench have done to the country," Perkins said. The case against judicial activism is "a very easy case to make," requiring only the citing of court rulings against school prayer and liberalizing the treatment of gays and the abortion rights case Roe v. Wade .
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Love the comment about moving the back of the bus, like the civil rights movement was a threat to anyone who doesn't hate blacks.
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er, i mean 'front' of the bus. oops.
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I was going to ask if that was my comment you were quoting, bt then I remembered I didn't say that in here. Funny.

I'd really love to do something to cure people of the evil that is Christianity. I'm sure with my programme of hardcore porn, gender swapping role playing, and electrocshock therapy, we can cure the world of the fucked up mentality of some Christians. And boohoo to anyone who finds this fucking offensive. It's about time you offended folks apologised for what you do to our gay and lesbian sector of the community.
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You will have to refrain exposing your bosom. Still willing?
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Speakers compared the civil rights movement of the 1960s to demands now by Christian groups for restoration of traditional morality. "It's time we move to the front of the bus and that we take command of the wheel," said William A. Donohue, president of the Catholic League.
Well we now know what some of the banned members of interference are doing now.
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Ah the Iranian...err...American clerics are starting their crap. Ayatollah Khomeini thought he was creating a democracy too. His logic was that since most of the nation was Shi'ite Muslim, the majority would clearly elect in a theocracy, and who the fuck cares about the minority?

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What I find most interesting about all this is the emphasis placed on boys vs. girls. It's as if "well, if your daughter is a lesbo, so be it, but make sure your son plays football." I mean, look at how one-sided this propaganda is based on which gender is being emphasised. Once again, it's a man's world I guess.

That being said, as a girl, I used to leave my Barbies lying around naked [much to the chagrin of my mother] and I'm not a lesbian. And I used to watch football all the time too -- got that from my mom. Watched auto racing -- got that from my dad. And guess what? I'm married to a wonderful man who enjoys the fact that he can watch football with me without me asking every five minutes what a touchdown is.

And as someone mentioned, being artistic and creative is not a sign that you're gay. Hell, Van Gogh was a male painter and that guy cut his ear off for a woman.

Perhaps it's not the homosexuality issue that is bugging Dobson. Perhaps the idea of gender roles makes him feel more masculine and the breakdown of those roles -- girls who like football and boys who like to paint, or women who are CEOs and men who are successful teachers -- is a sign that he is feeling threatened by changes in society.
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Perhaps it's not the homosexuality issue that is bugging Dobson. Perhaps the idea of gender roles makes him feel more masculine and the breakdown of those roles -- girls who like football and boys who like to paint, or women who are CEOs and men who are successful teachers -- is a sign that he is feeling threatened by changes in society.


i think homosexuality is an issue, but homosexuality is seen as the result of improper gender identification -- one creates the other.

there are so many, many holes in this pseudo-Freudian steaming pile of crap that it's hard to know where to begin debunking, but i think the underpinning logic is that "modern" or "secular" culture is tempting people away from their "natural" sex roles and thusly creating more homosexuals, because God doesn't make homosexuals because it says so in the Bible.
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Rejected Supreme Court nominee Robert H. Bork warned that the high court has defined homosexuality as "a constitutional right . . . and once homosexuality is defined as a constitutional right, there is nothing the states can do about it, nothing the people can do about it."
They shouldn't be able to do anything about it. It's called equal rights for all, buddy. It's utterly ironic that they claim to be like the civil rights leaders of the 50s and 60s (*Snorts at that comparison*), but yet support discrimination towards gays.

Honestly, I just want to find them and tell them to grow the hell up and take the pacifiers out of their mouths.

And as for the abortion thing...I'll just say that flat out making abortion illegal will not magically solve the problem, like these people would like us to believe. That's gotta be one hell of a fantasy world those people are living in, but it's time for them to be introduced to a little thing called reality.

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Oh don't you get it, y'all? They're a figment of our imagination! That's what I've been told.

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^ the greatest trick the Devil pulled was convincing us he didn't exist?


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