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Old 08-17-2005, 03:56 PM   #1
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GOP Traitors in a Time of War...

That is, during the war in Kosovo.

"President Clinton is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation's armed forces about how long they will be
away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy."

-Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA)

"No goal, no objective, not until we have those things and a compelling case is made, then I say, back out of it, because innocent people are going to die for nothing. That's why I'm against it."

-Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/5/99

"American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy."

-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

"If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy."

-Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of presidential candidate George W. Bush


Why did they demoralize our brave men and women in uniform?

"I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning...I didn't think we had done enough in the diplomatic area."

-Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)


"You think Vietnam was bad? Vietnam is nothing next to Kosovo."

-Tony Snow, Fox News 3/24/99


"Well, I just think it's a bad idea. What's going to happen is they're going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years"

-Joe Scarborough (R-FL)


"I'm on the Senate Intelligence Committee, so you can trust me and believe me when I say we're running out of cruise missles. I can't tell you exactly how many we have left, for security reasons, but we're almost out of cruise missles."

-Senator Inhofe (R-OK )

"I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarifiedrules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our overextended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today"

-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

"I don't know that Milosevic will ever raise a white flag"

-Senator Don Nickles (R-OK)

"Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?"

-Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99


Why didn't they support our president in a time of war?


"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."

-Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)


"This is President Clinton's war, and when he falls flat on his face, that's his problem."

-Senator Richard Lugar (R-IN)

"The two powers that have ICBMs that can reach the United States are Russia and China. Here we go in. We're taking on not just Milosevic. We can't just say, 'that little guy, we can whip him.' We have these two other powers that have missiles that can reach us, and we have zero defense thanks to this president."

-Senator James Inhofe (R-OK)


"You can support the troops but not the president"

-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)


"My job as majority leader is be supportive of our troops, try to have input as decisions are made and to look at those decisions after they're made ... not to march in lock step with everything the president decides to do."

-Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)


For us to call this a victory and to commend the President of the United States as the Commander in Chief showing great leadership in Operation Allied Force is a farce"
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)


Why did they blame America first?

Bombing a sovereign nation for ill-defined reasons with vague objectives undermines the American stature in the world. The international respect and trust for America has diminished every time we casually let the bombs fly."

-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)


"Once the bombing commenced, I think then Milosevic unleashed his forces, and then that's when the slaughtering and the massive ethnic cleansing really started"

-Senator Don Nickles (R-OK)

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Clinton's bombing campaign has caused all of these problems to explode"

-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)


"America has no vital interest in whose flag flies over Kosovo's capital, and no right to attack and kill Serb soldiers fighting on their own soil to preserve the territorial integrity of their own country"

-Pat Buchanan (R)


"These international war criminals were led by Gen. Wesley Clark ...who clicked his shiny heels for the commander-in-grief, Bill Clinton."

-Michael Savage


"This has been an unmitigated disaster ... Ask the Chinese embassy. Ask all the people in Belgrade that we've killed. Ask the refugees that we've killed. Ask the people in nursing homes. Ask the people in hospitals."

-Representative Joe Scarborough (R-FL)


"It is a remarkable spectacle to see the Clinton Administration and NATO taking over from the Soviet Union the role of sponsoring "wars of national liberation."

-Representative Helen Chenoweth (R-ID)


"America has no vital interest in whose flag flies over Kosovo's capital, and no right to attack and kill Serb soldiers fighting on their own soil to preserve the territorial integrity of their own country"

-Pat Buchanan (R )


"By the order to launch air strikes against Serbia, NATO and President Clinton have entered uncharted territory in mankind's history. Not even Hitler's grab of the Sudetenland in the 1930s, which eventually led to WW II, ranks as a comparable travesty. For, there are no American interests whatsoever that the NATO bombing will
either help, or protect; only needless risks to which it exposes the American soldiers and assets, not to mention the victims on the ground in Serbia."

-Bob Djurdjevic, founder of Truth in Media

Why do Republicans hate America?

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Old 08-17-2005, 04:01 PM   #2
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Re: GOP Traitors in a Time of War...

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Why do Republicans hate America?
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Thank you SO much for posting this! Time and time again when arguing with a Republican about the war I bring up Kosovo...and they never respond.
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And this is exactly the reason that the idea of a vast right wing war machine seems flawed, they are partisans who belittle the other side regardless.
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I'm glad Republicans and Democrats see eye to eye on so many things.

This is truly heartening.
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Thanks for posting this...classic.
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"America has no vital interest in whose flag flies over Kosovo's capital, and no right to attack and kill Serb soldiers fighting on their own soil to preserve the territorial integrity of their own country"

-Pat Buchanan (R )


For the record, Buchanan has consistently spoken out against the war in Iraq as well. I know, I know, it's crazy, but it's true.

Thanks for this.
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Best FYM thread in awhile!

You can't argue with history!
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"America has no vital interest in whose flag flies over Kosovo's capital, and no right to attack and kill Serb soldiers fighting on their own soil to preserve the territorial integrity of their own country"

-Pat Buchanan (R )


For the record, Buchanan has consistently spoken out against the war in Iraq as well. I know, I know, it's crazy, but it's true.

Thanks for this.
Pat is VERY consistent with his opinions.
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Re: GOP Traitors in a Time of War...

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Hmmmmm....

Just curious......

I do not believe President Clinton sought congressional approval for his actions.

Is there a difference when Congress grants the President legitimate war powers, and then makes comments like the ones above.
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Pat is VERY consistent with his opinions.
Yes, I agree. I didn't mean that part was crazy; I just meant that he isn't toeing the party line on the Iraq issue and most people do, on both sides, so it's kind of extraordinary (and impressive) that he is so passionate and outspoken on this issue and going against his fellow conservatives.
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I disagree with Pat Buchanan enough that I'd never vote for him, but his consistent candor makes you feel as if he actually believes what he says, rather than merely being political hypocrites...

...like all the other illustrious members of the GOP above.

This is my favorite quote:

"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is." -Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)

Tell us, President Bush, what is your "exit strategy"?

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Re: Re: GOP Traitors in a Time of War...

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I do not believe President Clinton sought congressional approval for his actions.

Is there a difference when Congress grants the President legitimate war powers, and then makes comments like the ones above.
You're nitpicking, although, predictably, if this ever became widely public, I can guarantee that the GOP would deflect from the issues at hand and focus on this.

But there's one problem: this "nitpicking" is absolutely irrelevant. This Bush Administration is one of the most secretive administrations in all American history, and if you want to get technical, Congress never formally declared war either. Since technicalities are the overriding factor in all politics (and you know it is true), both Bush and Clinton's wars are on equal legal footing here--except Clinton always brought us into existing conflicts, rather than "preemptive strikes" like Bush. That's ultimately where Bush has gotten into the most trouble with his "war on terror."

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I disagree with Pat Buchanan enough that I'd never vote for him, but his consistent candor makes you feel as if he actually believes what he says, rather than merely being political hypocrites...

exactly.
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