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Old 05-17-2011, 05:59 PM   #361
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well, that didn't take long for the GOP to pull out the knives.

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On NBC’s Meet the Press on Sunday, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich said that the central test he will face in the 2012 campaign will be “whether I have the discipline and the judgment to be president.”

In the last 48 hours – after Gingrich expressed support for insurance mandates and linked Rep. Paul Ryan’s fiscal plan to “right wing social engineering” -- some conservatives have offered their own answers to that question.

And it’s not good news for the presidential hopeful.

The Wall Street Journal editorial page skewered Gingrich on Tuesday, writing that his comment on the Ryan plan “reveals the Georgian's weakness as a candidate, and especially as a potential President—to wit, his odd combination of partisan, divisive rhetoric and poll-driven policy timidity.”

South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, whose state’s position as the third-in-the-nation primary makes her endorsement especially coveted, chimed in as well, calling Gingrich’s position on Ryan’s plan “absolutely unfortunate.”

“When you have a conservative fighting for real change, the last thing we need is a presidential candidate cutting him off at the knees,” she told CNN.

Conservative radio host Bill Bennett also admonished Gingrich, who appeared on his show today, telling him, “Ryan’s in the fight of his life, and you’re shooting at him from behind, saying this is just right-wing Obama-ism.”

But perhaps the most blunt criticism was literally in front of the former speaker’s face. On Monday, a voter in Dubuque, Iowa shouted at Gingrich to “get out now before you make a bigger fool of yourself.” (The video of the exchange presents just the kind of squirm-inducing awkwardness that prompts opposition researchers and ad-makers to chirp with glee.)

The man, Russell Fuhrman, later told the Des Moines Register that he thought Gingrich was a “jerk” and “an embarrassment to our party.”

And this barrage of reproach came before Politico reported that between 2005 and 2006, Gingrich carried as much as $500,000 in debt to Tiffany’s, the luxury jewelry company. It’s not yet clear whether Gingrich has since paid off the debt or not, but as a presidential candidate he will have to file a personal financial disclosure form.

The trouble for Gingrich began Sunday, when he told NBC’s David Gregory that Ryan’s plan to replace Medicare with a privatized voucher system was “a jump too far.”

“I don't think right-wing social engineering is any more desirable than left-wing social engineering,” he said. “I don't think imposing radical change from the right or the left is a very good way for a free society to operate.”

Gingrich was also asked whether he still favored, as he did in 1993, individuals “being required to have health insurance.” Rather than backing away from the implication that he supported an individual mandate, he insisted that “all of us have a responsibility to pay--help pay for health care. And, and I think that there are ways to do it that make most libertarians relatively happy.”

After being pummeled by conservatives for those statements, the onetime Georgia lawmaker and history professor has tried out several tactics in defending his position.

In a discussion with conservative radio host Mike Gallagher’s show on Monday, Gingrich blamed “gotcha press,” telling Gallagher that “they took dramatically out-of-context what I said, and tried to make it, dramatically, into a fight between Paul Ryan and me.”

Then later today, Gingrich told CNN that his current view of the Ryan plan may not be the one he ends up sticking with. “Normally campaigns are very secretive, they don't reveal anything until they're totally ready and then they spring something,” he said. “I really think you're better off when you engage the American people in a dialogue where they get to participate in the development of the ideas.”

While that explanation is ready fodder for those waiting to pounce on any shifts in Gingrich’s position, some conservative voices have already closed the book on the Gingrich campaign.

On Fox News yesterday, syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer said, “He’s done. He didn’t have a big chance from the beginning but now it’s over.”

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yes, that David Gregory is another coastal elitist trying to show off how smart he is by asking a history professor (!!!) policy questions.

kind of amazing how many people were for individual mandates before Obama actually signed it into law.
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Old 05-17-2011, 06:41 PM   #362
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kind of amazing how many people were for individual mandates before Obama actually signed it into law.
Or how many people were against mandates before signing "signature legislation" which contained them.

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"Hillary Clinton's attacking, but what's she not telling you about her health care plan?" "It forces everyone to buy insurance, even if you can't afford it, and you pay a penalty if you don't."
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here's how Obama explained it:

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"Do you believe that each individual American should be required to have health insurance?" asked Jonathan LaPook, an M.D. and a medical correspondent for CBS News.

"I have come to that conclusion," Obama said. "During the campaign I was opposed to this idea because my general attitude was the reason people don't have health insurance is not because they don't want it, it's because they can't afford it. And if you make it affordable, then they'll come. I am now in favor of some sort of individual mandate as long as there's a hardship exemption."


so ... Obama's gotten closer to Gingrich's original position which is where the GOP was up until the moment Obama actually got legislation passed? shouldn't you be happy about this?
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When a Negro Muslim passes this kind of act it's unconstitutional and socialism, when an old white guy who loves his country so much he cheats supports it, it's an original revolutionary idea.
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YouTube - Newt Gingrich Hit With Glitter

So much for the president's call for civility. Oops, forgot. The ends always justify the means in the pursuit of Left-wing activism.
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YouTube - Newt Gingrich Hit With Glitter

So much for the president's call for civility. Oops, forgot. The ends always justify the means in the pursuit of Left-wing activism.


wait ... was that Obama throwing glitter at Gingrich? because you appear to have blamed him.
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YouTube - Newt Gingrich Hit With Glitter

So much for the president's call for civility. Oops, forgot. The ends always justify the means in the pursuit of Left-wing activism.
The ends always justify the means?

It was glitter!!!

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wait ... was that Obama throwing glitter at Gingrich? because you appear to have blamed him.
I've seen the president throw a baseball and this guy clearly has a better arm.
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And INDY avoids yet another real question.
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all that glitters is not Tiffanys
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So much for the conservative's call for fiscal responsibility. Oops, forgot. The ends always justify the means in the pursuit of right-wing activism.
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Hmmm...I'm guessing INDY posted that largely because he in fact found the spectacle amusing.

I wouldn't really advocate dumping glitter over a politician as a means of protest (mostly due to the possible dangers should they panic not knowing what it is), but it's too campy and goofy a gesture to be seen as anything seriously offensive, IMO.
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Oh, it's the whole flash mob, pie throwing, "Hey, hey, ho, ho" chanting, bongo beating, tree-strapping, blood on the hands, guerilla theatre of it. But show up at a Tea party event with a tricorn hat and, well, you're a bozo.

Anyway, conservatives don't do "campy and goofy" so who am I to judge how effective this stuff is.
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1 vs hundreds

Hopefully you see how this video doesn't really apply here to your Tea Party are victims scenario that you're trying so hard to sell.
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