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Old 10-21-2004, 01:31 PM   #1
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For You Separation of Church & State Lovers

I guess we should avoid speaking disrespectfully of other religions and not speak of Christianity at all....

School Says Halloween Disrespectful to Witches

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The district said Halloween celebrations and children dressed in Halloween costumes might be offensive to real witches.
If they only stopped after the first two reasons.....
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Old 10-21-2004, 01:53 PM   #2
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You know, I DO love separation of church and state.

Not only does it ensure that I don't have to be any particular faith unless I really want to be, but it gives me the opportunity to read wacky news articles.

Seriously, though. This isn't really a separation of church and state issue--perhaps a case of P.C. run amok, but would we appreciate it if a Wiccan dressed up in a dopey costume of Christ or the Virgin Mary and poked fun at Christmas and Easter? I doubt it.
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Yeah, I agree, this has nothing to do with separation of church and state. It's just a community school board deciding they don't want to make fun of people.

Now, I wonder about the mental health of Wiccans who would be offended by this, but whatever.
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Seriously, though. This isn't really a separation of church and state issue--perhaps a case of P.C. run amok, but would we appreciate it if a Wiccan dressed up in a dopey costume of Christ or the Virgin Mary and poked fun at Christmas and Easter? I doubt it.
How is it not church & state? The school obviously recognizes that Wicca is a religion and that Holloween utilizes symbols related to witches.

We easily dismiss the representation of Wicca in a school, but will scream bloody murder if the Ten Commandments are found on public property. We have no problem censoring students from mentioning Jesus Christ in a commencement address.

Same crap as with the LA City council. Eliminate a small cross on the City Seal, but leave the imposing figure of the godess Pomona.
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I think it's the school district trying to be cheap so they don't have to pay for classroom parties.

Frankly, I don't think this is healthy. I learned more about different religions in my Catholic high school without the PC restrictions than I did in the public school system. Instead of saying no because of the Wiccans, why can't teachers teach about the Wiccan faith and the origins of Halloween. What's wrong with that?
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Frankly, I don't think this is healthy. I learned more about different religions in my Catholic high school without the PC restrictions than I did in the public school system. Instead of saying no because of the Wiccans, why can't teachers teach about the Wiccan faith and the origins of Halloween. What's wrong with that?
So you would allow schools to teach religion? Can the schools pick and choose, or should each and every religion be represented?
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I just have a question about the title of this thread for nbcrusader. You mean you aren't?
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Re: For You Separation of Church & State Lovers

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School Says Halloween Disrespectful to Witches



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I just have a question about the title of this thread for nbcrusader. You mean you aren't?
Aren't what?
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I think it's the school district trying to be cheap so they don't have to pay for classroom parties.

Frankly, I don't think this is healthy. I learned more about different religions in my Catholic high school without the PC restrictions than I did in the public school system.
I did too, sharky...I learned only about christianity in the public schools...



*edited to more accurately reflect what the hell I was trying to say!

*edited again because I can't spell!
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Aren't what?
A lover of separation of church & state.
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I love the First Amendment.

Let's repeat together:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof......"
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I love the First Amendment.

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prohibiting the free exercise thereof......"


Have you ever had the government come into your church and tell them what or how to administer to your fellow congregates?
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So you would allow schools to teach religion? Can the schools pick and choose, or should each and every religion be represented?
All religions. It should be part of geography or sociology or its own world religions class. Religion is a major way in which people define themselves and their beliefs and you can easily break it down into poli-social beliefs. Or incorporate it into other classes. I had a interesting class called Death and Dying that dealt with the legal issues of death, the cycle of mourning and how other religions view death, Heaven, Hell, etc.
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I agree with Pax this is nothing but someone being over PC.

Has anyone considered the fact that halloween makes fun of everyone? I see people dressed as priest, nuns, withches, politicians, dogs, cats, monsters, superheros, etc. Some dress as someone they admire others to mock...no one's safe it's freaking Halloween!

This is just a weak ass excuse. But people all over have been trying to ban halloween ever since I can remember except usually it's conservative Christians.
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