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Old 08-09-2005, 10:17 PM   #1
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There is no evidence or scientific proof of macroevolution. There
is only THEORIES.




...put that in your pipe and smoke it!
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Is it not the least bit contradictory to accept that mutation and natural selection occur but only on small scales and only over short periods of time but not accept the idea of cumulative small changes over longer periods of time yielding adaptation. It is the same bloody process.

Your assertion that there is no scientific evidence or proof of speciation is wrong, look at the Drosophila on the Hawaiian Islands, look at the Goatsbeard in the US, the selective breeding of Dogs over the last few thousand years to give numerous breeds with their own attributes (even though there are new/no reproductive barriers between them). Just look at the anatomical similarities between the Aves and the Dromaeosaurids, what is so implausible that dinosaurs could have evolved into birds.

'We have the evidence, the scientific facts. We have the scientific theories to explain these facts. You must learn exactly what a scientific theory is; it is a framework for explaining observations that can make testable predictions. The scientific theory is by definition supported by the evidence, if it lacks evidence then it is a hypothesis. Over time theories can be discarded if a better theory is invented or new evidence comes to light that doesn't fit the evidence.

Animals don't magically change into other animals ~ there is genetic variation between parents and offspring, this variation can effect the relative reproductive sucess of the offspring, this pressure will "select" the more useful mutations because those that carry it will have greater breeding sucess. That is the theory of natural selection in a nutshell, it is not a hypothesis; we can see this at work, you take animals and put them in different conditions over the course of generations the offspring will usually be better adapted to their enviornment in some ways.
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Re: food for thought

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There is no evidence or scientific proof of macroevolution. There
is only THEORIES.




...put that in your pipe and smoke it!
Wow that's a lot of food to think about...
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Old 08-10-2005, 06:40 AM   #4
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Re: food for thought

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There is no evidence or scientific proof of macroevolution. There
is only THEORIES.




...put that in your pipe and smoke it!
Yes, there is.

And creationism is an unprovable hypothesis that any person with an education laughs at.

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Re: food for thought

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There is no evidence or scientific proof of macroevolution. There
is only THEORIES.




...put that in your pipe and smoke it!
Wow, that really floored us.
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Read this: http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/...logetics/49566
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Quote:
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Read this: http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/...logetics/49566
Pick someone credible, instead of a quack on a computer. Anyone could have written that.

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....."And creationism is an unprovable hypothesis that any person with an education laughs at."




....What about the doctors and scientists who do believe in
creastionism? What about the people who have studied this
topic there whole lives. Can you really laugh at them?
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Ok melon,Do some of your own research on some of the leading
evolutionists that have admitted that macroevolution is a dead
end theory.
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Arguments over religion
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No. You came up with the statement, and it is YOUR burden to prove it. All you've come up with is a random link with nothing but meaningless pseudointellectual babble--the same kind of language I expect from a papal encyclical.

WHAT doctors and scientists? 99% of them, if they are truly non-biased, fully believe in evolution. The ones who don't let religion get ahead of reason, which is NOT how science operates. In other words, religious types dismiss evolution solely because their minister tells them to, and they start looking for "excuses" to dismiss evolution, rather than looking at evolution with an open mind and finding flaws on the basis of logic or evidence.

Speaking of "logic," the crux of this argument is that because people cannot physically "see macro-level" evolution, it cannot exist. But if you could "see it," it would instead be "micro-level" evolution. Notice the circular logic? In other words, due to the flawed criteria that you've set that you assume to be true, you've made it impossible to prove it.

So you've written your crap, now PROVE it yourself.

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....Nope this has nothing to do with religion. Just science.
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....I can't beat you melon. Your such an expert.
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....I can't beat you melon. Your such an expert.
And you're nothing but a troll trying to stir up shit.

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Listen, I only started this topic because I found out about so many evolutionists and creationists talking about the fact that macroevolution is in more way than one scientifically impossiple.
So don't get mad at me about it.
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