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Old 04-03-2009, 04:49 PM   #16
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i don't know about you, but i don't want my son coming home from school and informing me that he just learned that a prince can marry a prince, or a princess can marry a princess.
Damn STRAIGHT!!! It was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
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They've redefined Princesshood.
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Damn STRAIGHT!!! It was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

of course not silly

I've never known a gay man that called himself Steve

now Adam and Stefan,
that rolls off the tongue.
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of course not silly

I've never known a gay man that called himself Steve


you know, i'd love to say that i'd once dated a Steve, but i can't even remember their names!
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I have a Steve.
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Interesting....contentions that the US is a hotbed of homophobia are starting to look a bit dodgy! I think it vindicates the thesis that the last few years of religosity and social conservatism (in the US) are the aberration, and currently we are seeing the return to the prevailing long term trend towards greater social liberalism.

Whether that is a good or bad thing I will leave for others to judge.
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That's awesome news! Holy shit, if Iowa can do it, anybody can. Let's hope it lasts.
Iowa's not THAT conservative, but I have to admit it's a bit of a surprise to me as well (although a very pleaant one).

I'm very proud to be an Iowan today.
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i am going to get courage and speak that I don't stand by this ruling, i do oppose this..i do respect same-sex couples and its supporters.
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The gays have the rights, but not all of them?
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don't start tapping your foot yet,
the troglodytes are already talking about putting it on the Iowa ballot,
a la Prop 8 style
The good news is that it appears that Iowa's amendment process seems to be similar to Massachusetts' in that it would take a minimum of two years and a receptive legislature to be able to get it on the ballot. From all indications, though, the latter isn't even certain, so, unlike California, the "troglodytes" have an uphill battle on their hands here.
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Interesting....contentions that the US is a hotbed of homophobia are starting to look a bit dodgy! I think it vindicates the thesis that the last few years of religosity and social conservatism (in the US) are the aberration, and currently we are seeing the return to the prevailing long term trend towards greater social liberalism.

Whether that is a good or bad thing I will leave for others to judge.


the US, as ever, is composed of extremes. you have Provincetown, and you have Odessa, TX. you have arguably the most dynamic gay culture in the world, and you have arguably the most reactionary, know-nothing religious folk in the western world.

possibly, one needs the other to exist.
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Interesting....contentions that the US is a hotbed of homophobia are starting to look a bit dodgy! I think it vindicates the thesis that the last few years of religosity and social conservatism (in the US) are the aberration, and currently we are seeing the return to the prevailing long term trend towards greater social liberalism.
Only if you look at court rulings. When the people speak, same-sex marriage is 0 for 30 something. Not that matters of course.
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"troglodytes."

Isn't that nice?

Least I remind the clucking hens of tolerance and superiority. Being 44th president of the United States. So easy even a caveman can do it.
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Great news, let's hope it won't be overturned.
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Only if you look at court rulings. When the people speak, same-sex marriage is 0 for 30 something. Not that matters of course.
The good thing about having a constitution is that the wolves don't always get to decide whether they want to eat the sheep or not.
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