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Old 05-12-2008, 09:23 PM   #1
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China Quake: 10,000 or More Dead

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Re: China Quake: 10,000 or More Dead

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"We live in perilous times."

~St. Paul
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And, yet, without the mechanism behind earthquakes and volcanism--plate tectonics--we would be as dead as Mars.

"There's no such thing as a free lunch."
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we would be as dead as Mars.
I really believe Earth will look like Mars, one day (eon).
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Not because of us.
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"We live in perilous times."

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actually,
this 'quake' most likely would be seen as 'divinely' inspired by the two men you list

the walls came tumbling down - Jericho

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Not because of us.
We make our little contributions to Climate Change

and I do believe humankind is stupid enough to miss a tipping point

but, just look at the moon or mars

the size of some of the craters

it really is only a matter of time

I do expect we may have a couple of major extinctions again before we turn into a bowling ball
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Tipping point gets reached, mass extinction occurs and 10 million years later equilibrium is restored, a geological blink of an eye. We are arrogant if we think we are going to destroy the planet, even though we could destroy it as we know it.
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I really believe Earth will look like Mars, one day (eon).
If the Sun's aging process holds true, Earth will be uninhabitable to all life as we know it in 900 million to 1 billion years. A billion years after that, all surface water will have boiled away and evaporated. By the time the Sun becomes a red giant 3 billion years after that, Earth will either become a lifeless ball of molten rock, be swallowed by the Sun completely, or, as a compromise, it will be ripped apart by tidal forces into an asteroid belt. Of course, there is also a 1 in 100,000 chance that a passing star will disturb our orbit around the Sun before that ever happens and eject us into the oblivion of space. Perhaps a good moment for that will be when the Andromeda Galaxy merges with the Milky Way Galaxy in 3 billion years?

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If the Sun's aging process holds true,

I know this is what Science is telling us today

in 100 years they may revise their theories based on new or more information

I believe if the Science is right about the past,
we will experience major extinctions because of "atmospheric" changes in the future


It is widely accepted that the Sahara was once an abundant "grassland" or "jungle" landscape.

also, most scientists believe Mars once had quite a bit of "water"

I don't know where the Mars "water" went.

I can't say where our water will go.

But if we lose the ozone over the polls.

That could expedite a more sudden change.
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Er ... is this thread about an earthquake disaster, or what the Earth will look like in a bazillion years?
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It sounds like it may be another day or two, if not more, before this earthquake's full costs in lives and property are clear; apparently all roads and rail lines leading to the epicenter region, which is mountainous and rural, are impassable due to landslides, so rescue teams will have to go in on foot (with no help from the weather; continued heavy rains and thunderstorms are forecast). As it is, there are already thousands of people known to be buried beneath rubble in towns on the edge of that region. The death toll will almost certainly be well above 10,000.

From what I've read, the location and magnitude of this quake seem to have taken everyone by surprise; no one thought the known faults in this particular area were likely to generate quakes of quite this magnitude, so the buildings in its cities and towns hadn't been built or retrofitted to withstand them.

Of course it's no consolation to those who've already lost everything, but the Chinese military does have a good recent record of responding rapidly and effectively to natural disasters, unlike another regime that's been on every newsreader's mind the past few days. One can only hope it will make all the difference...
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A friend of mine is currently studying in Chengdu, just south of the epicenter.

But he and the other students are alright.
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A friend of mine is currently studying in Chengdu, just south of the epicenter.

But he and the other students are alright.
Chengdu is safe, only 45 dead. The worst is a town called Bei Chuan, 110,000 population in total, half town was buried by the stones and dust of the falling moutain, the little town single contributed more than 7000 death record, more than 10,000 people are still buried under the detritus.

Mian Zhu government had called all the male residents under 50 year old, carry their own tool, cloth, food and water, to go to Bei Chuan for the rescue.

The Wo Long giant panda research center still losing contact.


pic: people in Cheng Du formed a more than 200m queue outside of the blood bank center to give blood
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I've been following some of the news coverage of this on TV and it's really really sad. I am going to see what I can do to donate something to help in this relief effort. I hope others will join me in doing the same.
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Old 05-13-2008, 08:31 PM   #15
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I feel very very sorry for the innocent people their, I can't help but think that it's some kind of retribution for the turmoil in Myanmar and Darfur.
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