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Old 09-26-2003, 06:57 AM   #46
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I understand the arguments of stagman and co. to a certain degree, but I agree with melon.

it's dangerous to start slaggin Affrimative Action and getting all up in arms about it. I watced American History X last week and, though it's fictional, it's very real. Almost all the arguments used by the skinheads center around affirmative action.

I'm not saying anyone here is a skinhead, I'm just saying we're on thin ice here and we should thread carefully.

a lot of people were offended last week in a Texas university when the Young Conservatives had a bake sale to protest affrimative action. They sold cookies to white males for the most expensive ($1.00) and solf cookies to black people for 50 cents.

there were a lot of offended people
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Old 09-26-2003, 09:31 AM   #47
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Stagman/Angela:

No, no, I'm not saying Sydney/Australia don't have racial issues, they definitely do. And I'm not saying that Australians can't be racist, definitely can be. And I agree that it's any race vs any race. I think that by far the ugliest side of this country is the racism. Ignorance mixed with a media and government that likes to play to ignorance is a large part of the problem.

I just think that Stagman made a few very generalised, sweeping statements there (and I don't know about any football brawls).

I am a wee bit drunk at the moment, so I'll leave my reply at this for now, save you from hearing a huge and probably hazy rant involving talkback radio, the Daily Telegraph, Pauline Hanson, gang rapes, the stupid things people fall for around election time etc etc etc. I'll come back tomorrow.
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The point I'm getting at is that many white people in in Australia and suppose in America are accused of being racist so damn often. Whereas the Black people and people from or ethnic cultures have the idea that they can do no wrong.
They are sometimes as racist as white people.
I wish we could all just get along.

I'm live in a town just near Brisbane if you wish to know.
Yes anyone can be a racist. But you should be careful of your sweeping generalizations. I mean "Whereas the Black people and people from or ethnic cultures have the idea that they can do no wrong." Once again let's just throw them all in one pot. This is exactly what is wrong. This is racisim. Judging someone by the color of skin and not their individual merit. When you see a day where the playing field is equal for everyone and there are still minority groups fighting for a cause, then I'll agree that it's wrong, but until then...
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Whereas the Black people and people from or ethnic cultures have the idea that they can do no wrong.
nice generalization there buddy.
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It could possibly be nothing more than a poorly worded response, considering the statement after that which was "They are sometimes as racist as white people". But I'm sure stagman can clarify for himself.

Tyler, just to refresh your memory for when you reply again lol, the Canterbury Bulldogs?
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Old 09-26-2003, 07:09 PM   #51
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As I've been trying to say, It's just too easy to assume that white people are racist and that no one else is.
Political Correctness has a lot to answer for too.

That's right, there were some very fanatical supporters of the Bulldogs getting a little hysterical in the last few years.
Go the Doggies, Hope they can knock off those Roosters Tonight!
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well, i can kind of see what you're saying. I remember being in a room with about 150 blacks and whites debating affirmative action. There were alot of blacks disagreeing with whites, whites disagreeing with blacks, blacks disagreeing with blacks, and whites disagreeing with whites. Bigotry based on race is as diverse in opinions as the different shades of skin in this country.
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why don't they just call it the Kaukacian Kulture Klub?
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why don't they just call it the Kaukacian Kulture Klub?
An excellent example of racial politics in play
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Old 09-30-2003, 05:06 PM   #55
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why don't they just call it the Kaukacian Kulture Klub?
Was this an attempt at humor?

Just curious. Yes...this was my attempt at sarcasm.
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why don't they just call it the Kaukacian Kulture Klub?
Because the some of the people that support this are not comfortable revealing their true feelings.
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Old 10-01-2003, 03:17 AM   #57
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Re: Caucasian Club

From the article:

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McClelland's ethnic background includes American Indian, Hispanic, Dutch, German, Italian and Irish.
I'll assume that McClelland volunteers this information about her ethnic backround. That being the case, if her Indian, Hispanic, Dutch, German, Italian and Irish heritage are at all significant, perhaps she has no business starting a "Caucasian Club."
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Old 10-01-2003, 03:20 AM   #58
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Or perhaps the simple truth is that her argument is inane.

Yes, by golly, that's it.
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Clearly anyone who supports a group based on race is a racist. Of course.
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Once again, as with other discussions about race/ethnicity that have taken place in FYM, if we are unwilling to discuss the issue of balance of power among racial/ethnic groups, then we are not having an honest debate.
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