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Old 09-05-2002, 11:28 AM   #1
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Canada comes closer to legallizing marajuani (or however it's spelt!)

There's gonna be a decision reached soon, and it seems like there could actually be a good chance it goes through!!

the advocates for it have very very good arguments. Lowers policing and court costs, decrease criminal activity and smuggling and the like.
amongst many other things

it would be sold in stores and would have the same restrictions as alcohol. It would be considered a health risk like cigarettes and alcohol, but would not be considered illegal.

the arguments against are mostly weak. I do not agree that more people would smoke it. It would lose a lot of the "cool" stigma and, though it would prolly shoot up at first, it wouldn't be long before it dropped at least to the level of cigarette smoking.

The one argument against legallization that I have heard and which is almost enough to outweigh the advocates is that pot is often a stepping stone to higher drugs.
So even though I agree that it is less harmful than alcohol is many many ways, there is that particular risk factor.

What do you think?
it would make life a lot simplier in that it would crush the core of many big smugglers and such.
Millions would be saved

But there are good aruments against as well
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it's marijuana.
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Re: Canada comes closer to legallizing marajuani (or however it's spelt!)

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the arguments against are mostly weak. I do not agree that more people would smoke it. It would lose a lot of the "cool" stigma and, though it would prolly shoot up at first, it wouldn't be long before it dropped at least to the level of cigarette smoking.

Forget the mind-altering nature of marijuana...there is evidence that smoking the stuff is even worse for your lungs than smoking tobacco (even taking into account the fact that marijuana is often used in smaller quantities than tobacco).

I don't necessarily know if this is reason enough to keep it illegal, but if it is legalized it should be taxed up the wazoo to compensate for the strain that it might put on health care.
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I don't know what happened to Canada in the last week (Kyoto and now marijuana), but I like it
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Hey Basstrap! Yer back! You should check lemonade stand for the pics I took in Newfoundland.

About the marijuana...I read about this on the front page of a newspaper this morning(im too cheap to buy the paper so I just read the front page). I dont see anything wrong with it. You smoke marijuana, you harm yourself. I dont see why people hate drugs so much. There is a difference between substance USE and substance ABUSE.
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Hey Basstrap! Yer back! You should check lemonade stand for the pics I took in Newfoundland.

About the marijuana...I read about this on the front page of a newspaper this morning(im too cheap to buy the paper so I just read the front page). I dont see anything wrong with it. You smoke marijuana, you harm yourself. I dont see why people hate drugs so much. There is a difference between substance USE and substance ABUSE.
To us, yes. To the law, there generally isn't. Therein lies the problem.
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Most laws are so out of touch with reality it makes math teachers look real.
Note: I had a math teacher that didnt understand how I could buy half a chocolate bar from a friend.
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Most laws are so out of touch with reality it makes math teachers look real.
Note: I had a math teacher that didnt understand how I could buy half a chocolate bar from a friend.
Well, we all know thanks to AfroMan that excessive marijuana use leads to

-problems in school
-unemployment
-sexual dysfunction
-car accidents
-loud chicken-like noises

How do you enact a law that legalizes "recreational" marijuana use but not marijuana abuse? (or alcohol or tobacco, for that matter)
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Dropping to the same level as that of smokers?

Are your stats (ie Canadian) reflective of more people smoking pot than tobacco?

Interesting supporting statement.

Petty theft clogs the legal system too. Maybe renaming that activity to lawfully obtaining without right, would help ease the court sytem too. Infact, get rid of all petty criminal charges because they all clog up the legal system.

Decreasing criminal activity. Well, yeah it will be decreased because it doesn't have the same name. Selling it in shops will no doubt attract some kind of tax. Who will a pot smoker buy off? Joe Schmoe on the corner who will sell without the added cost of a government charge? Or your local takeaway/grog shop who has to add on extra charges? These people will have set prices. Any schmuck who has the freedom to take the advantage of selling can still charge whatever they want. They will undersell your friendly convenience store to ensure their marijuana business remains strong. Remember your local dealer is in it for one thing, and thats money. Not to become a legal registered business.

I'm a bit confused on this whole smuggling aspect. This law will allow anyone to bring the drug into the country and what, they are taken on good faith to do their right and lawful duty in selling it? And this will be monitored how?
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Asstrap -

If you would stop smoking so much Mary Jane, you would stop kilkling brain cells and be able to spell better.
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it will be better , anyway u can buy it , if you want . It's a private business of every human from 18 years of age .
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I don't think there is any prove that legalizing marijuana will lead to more marijuana being used/abused

I think the pros and cons are almost the same as tabacco and alcohol (though different studies have different outcomes)

but it seems to me (taking the outcome of the different studies into account) that there isn't much reason that legislation regarding marijuana should be different than re. tabacco and alcohol
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Re: Canada comes closer to legallizing marajuani (or however it's spelt!)

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the advocates for it have very very good arguments. Lowers policing and court costs, decrease criminal activity and smuggling and the like.
Decriminalizing anything would achieve the same goals.
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Building on what Angela Harlem and nbcrusader have mentioned, I might run for office on the following platform: Legalizing crime would reduce prison over-crowding.
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Legalizing crime would reduce prison over-crowding.
allowing one thing because companies (+ government in taxes) make a lot of money out of it (tobacco and alcohol)
while criminalizing another thing because all of a sudden you fear that citizens aren't responsible enough to not give in to a possible addiction (while the number of tobacco and alcohol addictions is still very high)
also is a very interesting policy
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