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Old 07-14-2008, 08:45 AM   #31
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That looks like something Fox News would come up with (not as a satire), and that's the point. I think plenty of people have the ability to figure that out.

Personally I think Rolling Stone making him look like Superman with a glow surrounding him is more offensive.

One more thing to dominate the media so they can avoid talking about anything that actually matters.
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The only context,
is that it is the cover of a magazine.

It is not a stand alone billboard.


Some have said it is not as subtle as some of the other covers I posted.


What is subtle about comparing the GOP elephant being pulled down
to Saddam (the butcher) Hussien?


If the cover only had Obama in the Whitehouse with the flag burning in the fireplace,
would it be less offensive?

I think with 4-5 of the rumors, it is much less offensive because there is no way to mistake it for a serious piece, such as Bush burning the Constitution.

It is one cover.
Would it be better as four covers, with one rumor each?
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Old 07-14-2008, 03:04 PM   #33
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I don't recall any Obama fans, complaining in March about this cover.


And more importantly, I don't recall any Hillary supporter's raising a big fuss.

And was this really fair?

To label Hillary as "Custard's Last Stand"?

When the primary was far from over?
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I agree with you.

But at the same time I think the picture is too high brow for a good 50% of the population.
Here in Indiana we call that elitism.

Got some other words for it too.
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I think the picture is too high brow for a good 50% of the population. Then again, I wouldn't imagine them to be New Yorker readers in the first place.
That's how I feel. Whether or not it's good/bad, clever/stupid also depends on the audience.

Can't really compare a New Yorker cover to the Rolling Stone cover without considering the audience, who typically reads those publications...
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Here in Indiana we call that elitism.

Got some other words for it too.
I like how Lies agreed, out there in the elitist snobatorium of Grand Rapids, Michigan. I guess they're just different than you Indiana folks.
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Here in Indiana we call that elitism.

Got some other words for it too.
Spare us the populist BS.
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I like how Lies agreed, out there in the elitist snobatorium of Grand Rapids, Michigan. I guess they're just different than you Indiana folks.
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What is subtle about comparing the GOP elephant being pulled down
to Saddam (the butcher) Hussien?
The comparsion between the GOP and Hussein wasn't being thrown about widely. (In fact that cover was the probably the first time such a comparison had been made.)

The insinuations about Obama's "Americanism", his supposedly "Muslim past" etc however have been out there for quite some time, so the cover is hardly original or subtle.

But as I said before, it doesn't really bother me. I don't know that Obama's campaign really needed to respond to it at all. . .but then I guess they don't want to make the "Kerry mistake" of ignoring insinuations that might make him look bad.
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The insinuations about Obama's "Americanism", his supposedly "Muslim past" etc however have been out there for quite some time, so the cover is hardly original or subtle.
Don't you think by stacking all the rumors up together and the attention this is getting will be a 'net' gain for Obama.

This will be on Fox, Hannity and Holmes, O'Rielly and they will all say these things are not true.


And the people that keep posting that 50 % of the country won't get it.

Again, if it was just Obama with the flag in the fireplace, I might agree.

But, with all these rumors stacked up, I think most people will see it for what it is.
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Why do some people have the impression Obama does not like the American Flag ?




Are Obama and his campaign contributing to the American Flag issue ?


If he wants to be President, perhaps he should get the impression out there he likes the flag of the country he wants to lead?





Especially, with people that have served.
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They may have served, but they haven't yet served in Obama's massively increased AmeriCorps.
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That looks like something Fox News would come up with (not as a satire), and that's the point.
The purpose of The New Yorker cover is to sell more magazines. THAT'S the point.

Not to use FoxNews as a punching bag (...yet again).
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The purpose of The New Yorker cover is to sell more magazines. .
You mean the cover is to get one to pick up the magazine?

Then open to contents
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I guess I'm on the "It's not offensive, but not really good satire either" side of things. The only real way you can tell it's satire and not scaremongering from some ultra-right wing nutcase cartoonist is that it's on the cover of the New Yorker.
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