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Old 12-04-2003, 10:21 PM   #1
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Bono and Bush ironically have similar struggles..

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cannot get France, Germany and Russia on board to deal w/worldwide terrorism that has conragated to Iraq.
This is sad, where countries will not do nothing or choose to sit on the fence thereby giving fanactical lunatics a false sense of security while more innocents die..where the problem can be solved in a few short months.

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has pleaded w/fellow celeberties to join him in the AIDS-Africa/Debt cause and there has been a bit more help as of late..however not enough.
Why arent celeberties flocking to the cause?
Why arent sport figures like Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Allan Iverson and others there lobbying as hard or harder than our good friend Bono?

Apathy sucks.


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Why isn't Bush coming to his help? The man pledged to get everyone behind giving 3 billion to Africa. Yet his own party unamiously voted against.
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Didn't Bono say today he was "infuriated" by the US congress and funding for AIDS?
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Diamond, Diamond, Diamond....

I don't know how you have managed to compare the two.

Bono trying to get celebrities to help him out is entirely different to Bush trying to convince other countries to come around to his way of 'thinking'.

And honestly "can be solved in a few short months" isn't really reality even if 30 more countries signed up.

Yes, Apathy sucks though.
But countries disagreeing with the US isn't necessarily apathy.
And I personally think that if a celebrity was going to step in for Bono for the HIV cause, he/she would have to be selected very carefully. I can't think of anyone who could do it as well.

Certainly not Allen Iverson.

And Magic Johnson does a sh*tload of HIV/AIDS work.
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michael jordan doesn't get involved in issues like this... never has, never will.
allen iverson isn't exactly the kinda guy you'd look for
magic johnson should be more involved... he's done a lot to bring aids awareness here in america, but hasn't done a whole lot regarding overseas stuff.

if there's an athlete out there who's bono should recruit to join him it's dikembe mutumbo... from the congo... who's already done tons of humanitarian work in his native africa, and he plays in new york... which is always a plus.
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I will agree that Iraq and the Middle East as a whole is way too complex and difficult to have a solution in a matter of months. History doesn't happen like that. For a really good background in the Middle East mess read David Fromkin's "A Peace to End All Peace". The scary thing is the risk factor. That's high, no matter who's involved. It's just plain risky doing Middle East policy.
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Re Bono's cause..these ahtletes should be clamoring to the cause as this is an emergency..begging to be part of the effort to help their brothers and sisters.
All professional athetes w "celeberty currency" regrdless of color should unite w Bono to defeat this plague...as we are a human family we are all brothers and sisters.
Bono must be throwing chairs around pissed off w/their lack of action.
They need to think "globally" and not locally in this day and age.
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I will agree that Iraq and the Middle East as a whole is way too complex and difficult to have a solution in a matter of months. History doesn't happen like that. For a really good background in the Middle East mess read David Fromkin's "A Peace to End All Peace". The scary thing is the risk factor. That's high, no matter who's involved. It's just plain risky doing Middle East policy.
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I see things a little more simple I guess.
These are religous fanactics.
Every religion and every country has them.
Sensible countries and leaders need to unite and remove these irretrievable souls that choose to force ppl how to live and kill innocent life from the face of the earth.
Its that simple.
It could be solved in a few months.

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Re Bono's cause..these ahtletes should be clamoring to the cause as this is an emergency..begging to be part of the effort to help their brothers and sisters.
All professional athetes w "celeberty currency" regrdless of color should unite w Bono to defeat this plague...as as a human family we are all brothers and sisters.
Bono must be throwing chairs around pissed off w/their lack of action.
They need to think "globally" and not locally in this day and age.
I agree, but are you dissapointed in your hero G.W. as much as these athletes?
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Mark my words..
GW will not let Bono down.
Bono will get the money when Congress votes on it.
You will then have to pick another issue to bash Bush on..

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Mark my words..
GW will not let Bono down.
Bono will get the money when Congress votes on it.
You will then have to pick another issue to bash Bush on..

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I hope he does, I'd love not to have to "bash" Bush on this issue, but he hasn't in the past. What makes you think he'll pull something out this time around?
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db i agree with you to a point...

where as i agree with you in my hope that some of today's athletes will pick up the cause, athletes aren't politicians... it's not their responsability to do anything. their only responsability is to look after them and there's... should they also be looking out for their fellow man, especially with their wealth and celebrity status? absolutely... but if they don't want to, you can't force them to. jordan's been criticized by many black leaders... from farakahn to jim brown... about his lack of envolvement in the community and in humanitarian affairs. but that's his right.

mutombo howerver has always been active... he's spent millions of his own money to build hospitals in his native land. i may think he can't shoot the ball if his life depended on it and that my knicks didn't need to spend 4 mill a year on him, but that aside... he is a very well spoken, intellegent, funny, caring man who would be a perfect person for bono to recruit into the DATA cause. that is if bono can deal with walking around with a man who's probably a foot and a half taller than the b-man

check out www.dmf.org for some of his work

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1-Bono believes in Bush-on this matter.
2-Bush is compassionate, not passive but compassionate.
3-Bush has a track record of keeping his promises
4-It's Christmas.

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Youre correct Mt Mutumbo is a good righteous person
As far as "rights" of a sports celeberty and that -legally youre correct, however I was thinking more on a spiritual level.
See John 15:16

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1-Bono believes in Bush-on this matter.
2-Bush is compassionate, not passive but compassionate.
3-Bush has a track record of keeping his promises
4-It's Christmas.

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1. Bono has hope and can't bite the hand that feeds him. Trust me if it was anyone else in office, it would be the same thing.
2. Compassionate conservative is a label he used to try and gain those on the fence, he hasn't lived up to it. The man is probably the least compassionate pres we've had in awhile.
3. Like no nation building?
4. Yes it is, HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
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