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Old 04-15-2005, 09:22 AM   #61
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Wow, that sucks. Can you say "sucks"? Someone once told me that the definition of a fart is a "small explosion between the legs." You should just use that instead.

Do you do a lot of stories on farting in the high school paper?

By the way, I believe farts are evidence that God has a sense of humor. (that and he created me.)
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Old 04-15-2005, 09:26 AM   #62
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I don't know if we can say "sucks", its not likely.

There are never stories on farting, but some of our humorists wanted to invoke it.

I agree with the sense of humor thing. I don't understand why people are so ashamed of burps and farts! Every human being does it from birth through death.
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Old 04-15-2005, 09:32 AM   #63
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Eactly. I guess farts are just bad because they smell. (OK, now I'm stating the obvious.)

What are some stories you've written for the paper? (Besides the one on farts that you're not owning up to.)
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well pre-election i wrote a straight news story updating people on the race, and later i wrote a pro-kerry column vs. a pro-bush column. i've also written some random stuff that i was assigned about a student ice skater...a guy who was in a commercial, etc.
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Sounds like fun. Today I've got a boring day. I'm just doing a preview of a civil war event. I don't know what my other story is going to be yet.
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Always liked print over media. What's your favorite newspaper (excluding your own)? Do you find most readers you come in contact with it capable of separating the editorial viewpoint of the paper from the news? While I like the immediacy of dailies, I like the more detached analysis of some magazines, after the emotion has had a time to die down, the time gap that allows them to put the facts into perspective, which I don't think the newspapers have the luxury of doing. I'll refrain from stating my opinion on the Schiavo case, but all that heatedness, now nothing. Old news until it happens again. I tend to pay less attention to the newspapers now, because I know the issue won't be important once the facts are played out.

Do you get uncomfortable sometimes with the emotional manipulation many newspapers engage in?
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Wow, thanks for all the great questions. (I feel so special). This may sound funny, but I don't know that I have a favorite newspaper. Other than our paper and the Kansas City star, I don't get my news from other papers or read them really.
I get more of my news from the internet —*mainly CNN.com.

As far as the emotional manipulation, I think some of that may be unintentional and comes with the territory of putting out a daily paper and having a deadline. Sometimes emotions that are tied to a story are maybe boosted as the deadline nears and the people putting the paper together consider the readers reading it the next morning. I think the more immediate the news source, maybe it's harder to put the news in perspective without the emotion. TV's a great example. Much of it, and I'm talking local TV news crews, are crap. (just one man's opinion.) Does that answer your questions? I'm kind of rambling here.
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Thank you for your answers. I disagree a little with your take on emotional manipulation. I think it is intentional to sell papers. It's a talking down to the reader--manipulating the news so it is seen in black and white, instead of dealing with all the grey areas. I don't blame the newspapers as much as I blame the readers. The stories are often slanted (not talking political bias here) for their sensationalism, their salaciousness because that is what sells. Too many readers want to feel, not to think.

What is the most controversial story you ever worked on?

I have a fondness for the New York Times (I know liberal rag, blah, blah) I like that it rarely uses inflammatory adjectives. I like that down the line, it is Mr. Bush, Mr. Clinton, Mr. Hussein, Mr. Castro. (I know they take some heat for that...It should be glorious President Bush or Clinton or that monster Hussein). NY Times lets the facts speak for themselves. Do I believe the Times is biased. Sometimes. Do I think they let what they want to believe get in the way of the information sometimes? Sure. Were they blemished with Jayson Blair? Hell, yes. That being said, I still think the paper is THE standard, packed with more facts and cold analysis than any other paper I've ever read.

(PS, I love Vanity Fair for its generally intelligent salaciousness. I'm a gossip monger like everybody else.)
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The most controversial story I ever did dealt with the Boy Scouts and a gay boy in town. It wasn't that the boy was wanting in the troop, it was that the troop was sponsored by a local church that the gay boy attended, and the church really strived for inclusiveness as its mission, and since the Boy Scouts don't allow gays to become members, the church dealt with a complaint by the boy's family and there were many church committee meetings and all kinds of stuff. In the end, since the troop wasn't actually tied to the church directly (in that it wasn't an actual church organization run by the church) the committee decided to leave everything as is. The boy and his family now go to a different church.

The best compliment I got after writing that story was from both sides. Both the boy's family and the church said I was fair and accurate and the story was balanced. I worked hard to make sure it was that way too.

By the way, I can agree with you on your emotional manipulation point.
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So what do you really think of public relations people?
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Great question

Seriously, there are some who are really cool and they don't want to bother you, they're just trying to get the information out. Then there are some who call way too often, talk way too long and are disrespectful in their approach. Those are in the minority though.

Our paper's coverage area is just our city and then three, smaller nearby cities. We often get people wanting us to cover something in Kansas City, Kan. or Mo. and they don't understand why we won't cover it without an angle tied to our own coverage area. They sometimes hang up kind of urinated off, but we've got to set boundaries, you know? We're understaffed as it is.

By the way, I wouldn't rule out a job in PR myself, even though people consider it selling out. I'm looking at one now and I have hopes of doing my own PR company for churches and nonprofits on the side. I think it's cool if it's done well and can help make a difference.
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By the way, Jessica Ann, are you in PR? (Forgive me if you've ever told me what you do and I have forgotten.)
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Yes, I am in PR (at an agency ... my specialty is healthcare and non-profit PR, but I have recently been put on a hospitality account)

I actually was a journalism major in college but have always worked in PR. As a former J-school professor of mine says, I "crossed over to the dark side."

Incidentally, I have pretty good relationships with people in the news business here in Milwaukee and some, particularly in TV hit me up all the time for job leads in PR.
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Wow, I need to ask you some questions. How does it work with the nonprofits? How do you guys charge them or whatever? What all do your services include for them?

By the way, don't feel bad by crossing over to the dark side. The dark side pays better and has normal hours.
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Wow, I need to ask you some questions. How does it work with the nonprofits? How do you guys charge them or whatever? What all do your services include for them?

By the way, don't feel bad by crossing over to the dark side. The dark side pays better and has normal hours.
We charge a discounted rate for our non-profit clients. Though we typically end up going above and beyond our contracted hours for our non-profit clients and end up writing off the additional hours as a donation.

Our services (for non-profit and for profit organizations) include:
marketing campaigns, community relations, public relations, media relations, crisis communications, corporate communications, employee and internal communications, event planning, promotions and sponsorships, brand positioning, spokesperson/media training, script development/speechwriting, PSA production, video production and development, collateral material development, annual report development.
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