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Old 06-17-2008, 08:54 PM   #16
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And where were the lies? Please show me. How has AIDS been exagerated? They didn't give any examples in the article, maybe you can.
How has AIDS been exagerated?
Let's start with the fact that we've all been told that it's equally likely that North American Heterosexuals could get AIDS as it is North American Homosexuals or Intervenous drug users. This is simply NOT the truth and for the longest time we were told that AIDS is everyone's concern equally. It's just not. This is not to say we shouldn't be concerned for others but for years people have been hoodwinked by some well meaning and some not-so-well meaning politically correct organizations.
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AIDS is everyone's concern equally.



so just because it won't happen to you it's not your concern? Nice attitude, really
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How has AIDS been exagerated?
Let's start with the fact that we've all been told that it's equally likely that North American Heterosexuals could get AIDS as it is North American Homosexuals or Intervenous drug users. This is simply NOT the truth and for the longest time we were told that AIDS is everyone's concern equally. It's just not. This is not to say we shouldn't be concerned for others but for years people have been hoodwinked by some well meaning and some not-so-well meaning politically correct organizations.


no one has been told that.

what you have been told is that if you are exposed to the disease, you will catch it just as surely as anyone in any group.

no one is immune is quite different from you're all at equal risk.

if you get raped by someone who is HIV positive, guess what straight man, you're going to get HIV.
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How has AIDS been exagerated?
Let's start with the fact that we've all been told that it's equally likely that North American Heterosexuals could get AIDS as it is North American Homosexuals or Intervenous drug users. This is simply NOT the truth and for the longest time we were told that AIDS is everyone's concern equally. It's just not. This is not to say we shouldn't be concerned for others but for years people have been hoodwinked by some well meaning and some not-so-well meaning politically correct organizations.
If you have sex with an HIV-positive woman, you can potentially get HIV.
If a woman has sex with an HIV-positive man, she can potentially get HIV.
If you're a slut and have unprotected sex with multiple partners, you are at higher risk for HIV, because of the probability that you have sex with someone with HIV becomes higher.
If you're a slut and your multiple partners are sluts and you all have unprotected sex, you're at an even higher risk for HIV, because that same HIV probability is even higher.

What part of this logic are you having trouble with?
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If you have sex with an HIV-positive woman, you can potentially get HIV.
If a woman has sex with an HIV-positive man, she can potentially get HIV.
If you're a slut and have unprotected sex with multiple partners, you are at higher risk for HIV, because of the probability that you have sex with someone with HIV becomes higher.
If you're a slut and your multiple partners are sluts and you all have unprotected sex, you're at an even higher risk for HIV, because that same HIV probability is even higher.

What part of this logic are you having trouble with?
ALL TRUE. The part I'm having trouble with is for years we've been lied to. Have we not been lied to??
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ALL TRUE. The part I'm having trouble with is for years we've been lied to. Have we not been lied to??


it seems you haven't had your facts right. no one has lied to you. you haven't educated yourself.
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Depends what you mean by lied to. If you're concerned that the bearers of news have limited integrity: welcome to the history of mankind, I hope you enjoy your stay.

If there's an incurable disease for which there are no treatments, which kills not only the initial host generation but also their children, and you aren't sure how easily it spreads, do you 'wait and see' and let science run it's course over 3 decades before talking about it, or do you risk seeming sensationalist and try to get people to be safer rather than victims? It's easy to say that you've been lied to, knowing what we do now, that the threat amongst certain demographics was exaggerated -- but the threat is still there, exaggerated or not. An exaggeration doesn't mean that it can't still happen. AIDS hasn't gone away, and if people are ignorant about it then it will proliferate.

Just because you come from a middle-upper-class white background doesn't mean you have immunity, even if you aren't 'at risk'; conversely, even though you come from a lower-class/empoverished background doesn't mean you're 'at risk' if there's no HIV+ individuals in your locality, but again that doesn't make you immune either. The disease doesn't recognize race/creed/sexuality, it does what its intended function is, it replicates itself at the cost of its host and does so indifferently from all else. That means it is a danger, and until there's a way to eradicate it, it will always be a danger.

Sure, it has been politicized, sure, people make it a partisan issue, sure, people make it an absurd moralistic or religious issue (ie it's a gay disease, it's a disease that affects adulterers), and sure, some others make it a race disease (ie only blacks get it). Really though, it isn't something to be shocked about, and if you think this is the only time it's happened, prepare to experience much more outrage in your life. Everyone has an agenda, and everyone will push that agenda.
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ALL TRUE. The part I'm having trouble with is for years we've been lied to. Have we not been lied to??
All true, and all what everyone understands about HIV and AIDS. Except you, apparently.
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Simple link-Hillary is behind the whole AIDS conspiracy, it was all part of her plan to steal the election. Easy enough to figure out
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I knew it wouldn't take more than a couple of postings until someone would start talking like this. Some of you just amaze me
The fact that you take "articles" like this at face value amazes me...
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did anyone stop to think that the only way that AIDS was going to be taken seriously was if the threat to the general population was highlighted?

it's not like straight white western males as a group are all that concerned about a disease that might be eating through the poor, the black, the gay, the addicted. fuck those fuckers, right? serves them right. but when you make the accurate scientific statement that being straight white western and male doesn't make you immune from the disease, then damn, well now we better do something. i mean, we're the people that matter, right?
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did anyone stop to think that the only way that AIDS was going to be taken seriously was if the threat to the general population was highlighted?
I hope everyone stopped to think about that because it's the absolute truth
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did anyone stop to think that the only way that AIDS was going to be taken seriously was if the threat to the general population was highlighted?
No shit.

Rubbers used to be only used to make sure your girlfriend didn't get knocked up and your sailor friend didn't get the clap. Once the threat of AIDS affected the general population, condoms were advertised on TV fer crissakes.
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No shit.

Rubbers used to be only used to make sure your girlfriend didn't get knocked up and your sailor friend didn't get the clap. Once the threat of AIDS affected the general population, condoms were advertised on TV fer crissakes.


makes me think of my favorite line from Austin Powers: "Condoms are for sailors, baby!"
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