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Old 12-02-2004, 11:51 AM   #1
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wink 346 similarities between christ and chrishna

well since religious threads are making a comback i thought i would jump on the bandwagon. i have only included about 130 of the similarities here:

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1. The advent of each Savior was miraculously foretold by prophets.
2. The fallen and degenerate condition of the human race is taught in the religion of each.
3. A plan of restoration or salvation is provided for in each case.
4. A divine Savior is considered necessary in both cases.
5. The necessity of atoning for sin is taught in the religion of each.
6. A God, or Son of God, is selected as the victim for the atoning sacrifice in each case.
7. This God is sent down from heaven in each case in the form of a man.
8. The God or Savior in each case is the second person of the Trinity.
9. Chrishna, as well as Christ, was held to be really God incarnate.
10. The mission of each Savior is the same.
11. There is a resemblance in name __ Chrishna and Christ.
12. Chrishna, as well as Christ, was incarnated and born of a woman.
13. The mother in each case was a holy virgin.
14. The same peculiarities of a miraculous conception and birth are related of each.
15. Each had an adopted earthly father.
16. The father of Chrishna, as well as that of Christ, was a carpenter.
17. God is claimed as the real father in both cases.
18. A Spirit or Ghost was the author of the conception of each.
19. There was rejoicing on earth when each Savior was born.
20. There was also joy in heaven at the birth and advent of each.
21. Chrishna, as well as Christ, was of royal descent.
22. Their mothers were both reputedly pious women.
23. The names of two mothers are somewhat similar __ Mary and Maia.
24. Each had a special female friend __ Elizabeth in the one case, and the wife of Nanda in the other.
25. Neither Savior was born in a house, but both in obscure situations.
26. Both were born on the 25th of December.
27. Both, at birth, were visited by wise men and shepherds.
28. The visitors were conducted by a star in each case.
29. The rite of purification was observed by the mothers of each.
30. An angel warns of impending danger in each case.
31. The incumbent ruler was hostile in each case.
32. A bloody decree in each case for the destruction of the infant Savior.
33. A flight of the parents takes place in both cases.
34. The parents of one sojourned at Muturea, the other at Mathura.
35. Each Savior had a forerunner __ John the Baptist in one case, Bali Rama in the other.
36. Both were preternaturally smart in childhood.
37. Each disputed with and vanquished learned opponents.
38. Both became objects of search by their parents.
39. And both occasioned anxiety, if not sorrow, to their parents.
40. The mother of each had other children __ that is children begotten by man as well as God.
41. Both Saviors retired to, and spent considerable time in the wilderness.
42. The religious rite of "fasting" was practiced by each Savior.
43. Each delivered a noteworthy sermon, or series of moral lessons.
44. Chrishna, as well as Christ, was called and considered God.
45. Each was both God and the Son of God (so regarded).
46. "Savior" was one of the divine titles of each.
47. Each was designated "the Savior of man," "the Savior of the world," etc;.
48. Both expressed a desire to "save all."
49. Each sustained the character of a Messiah.
50. Chrishna, as well as Christ, was a Redeemer.
51. Each Savior was called "Shepherd."
52. Both were believed to be the Creator of the world.
53. Each is sometimes spoken of, also, as only an agent in the creation.
54. Both were the "Light and Life" of men.
55. Each "brought life and immortality to light."
56. Both are represented as "the seed of the woman bruising the serpent's head."
57. Was Christ a "Dispenser of grace," so was the Hindoo Savior.
58. One was "the lion of the tribe of Judah," the other "the lion of the tribe of Saki."
59. Christ was "the Beginning of the End," Chrishna "the Beginning, the Middle, and the End."
60. Both proclaimed, "I am the Resurrection."
61. Each was "the way to the Father."
62. Both represented emblematically "the Sun of Righteousness."
63. Each is figuratively represented as being "all in all."
64. Both speak of having existed prior to human birth.
65. A dual existence __ an existence in both heaven and earth at once __ is claimed by or for both.
66. Chrishna, as well as Christ, was "without sin."
67. Both assumed the divine prerogative of forgiving sins.
68. The mission of each was to deliver from sin.
69. Both came to destroy the devil and his works.
70. The doctrine of the "atonement" is practically realized in each case.
71. Each made a voluntary offering for the sins of the world.
72. Both were human as well as divine.
73. Chrishna, as well as Christ, was worshiped as God absolute.
74. Each was regarded as "the Lord from Heaven."
75. Chrishna, as well as Christ, had applied to him all the attributes of God.
76. Was Christ omniscient, so was Chrishna.
77. Was one omnipotent, so was the other (so believed).
78. And both are represented as being omnipresent.
79. Each was believed to be divinely perfect.
80. Was one "Lord of lords," so was the other.
81. Each embodied the "power and wisdom of God."
82. All power was committed unto each (so claimed).
83. Chrishna performed many miracles as well as did Christ.
84. One of the first miracles of each was the cure of a leper.
85. Each healed "all manner of diseases."
86. The work of casting out devils constitutes a part of the mission of each.
87. Each practically proved his power to raise the dead.
88. A miracle appertaining to a tree is related of both.
89. Both could read the thoughts of the people.
90. The power to detect and eject evil spirits was claimed by both.
91. Both had the keys or control of death.
92. Each led an extraordinary life.
93. Each had a character for supernatural greatness.
94. Both possessed or claimed a oneness with the Father.
95. A "oneness with his Lord and Master" is claimed, also, for the disciples of each.
96. A strong reciprocal affection between Master and disciple in each case.
97. Each offers to shoulder the burdens of his disciples.
98. A portion of the life of each was spent in preaching.
99. Both made converts by their miracles and preaching.
100. A numerous retinue of believers springs up in each case.
101. Both had commissioned apostles to proclaim their religion.
102. Each was an innovator upon the antecedent religion.
103. A beautiful reform in religion was inaugurated by each Savior.
104. Each opposed the existing popular priesthood.
105. Both abolished the law of lineal descent in the ancient priesthood.
106. Each was an object of conspiracy by his enemies.
107. Humility and external poverty distinguished the life of each.
108. Each denounced riches and rich men, and loathed and detested wealth
109. Both had a character for meekness.
110. Chastity or unmarried life was a distinguishing characteristic of each.
111. Mercy was a noteworthy characteristic of each.
112. Both were censured for associating with sinners.
113. Each was a special friend to the poor.
114. A poor widow woman receives marked attention by each.
115. Each encounters a gentile woman at a well.
116. Both submitted unresistingly to injuries and insults.
117. General practical philanthropy and impartiality marks the life of each Savior.
118. Each took more pleasure in repentant sinners than in virtuous saints,
119. Both practically disclosed God's attempt to reconcile the world to himself.
120. The closing incidents in the earth_life of each were strikingly similar.
121. A memorable last supper marked the closing career of both.
122. Both were put to death by "wicked hands."
123. Chrishna, as well as Christ, was crucified.
124. Darkness attended the crucifixion of each.
125. Both were crucified between two thieves.
126. Each is reported to have forgiven his enemies.
127. The age of each at death corresponds (being between thirty and thirty_six years)
128. Each, after giving up the ghost, descends into hell.
129. The resurrection from the dead is a marked period in the history of each.
130. Each ascends to heaven after his resurrection.
131. Many people are reported to have witnessed the ascension in each case.
132. Each is reported as having both descended and ascended.
133. The head of each, while living on earth, was anointed with oil.
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Krisna
Krsna
Krishna

I never saw it spelled Chrishna during the two years I studied Sanskrit. If you directly transliterate the Devanagari script of Sanskrit, the spelling is Krsna. The vowel i is part of the r as it's written, and the s had a part of it that gives it the sh sound.
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I believe that all of the major religions are connected in some way so this is very interesting.
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Krisna
Krsna
Krishna

I never saw it spelled Chrishna during the two years I studied Sanskrit. If you directly transliterate the Devanagari script of Sanskrit, the spelling is Krsna. The vowel i is part of the r as it's written, and the s had a part of it that gives it the sh sound.
now that you say that i don't know if i've ever seen it with the CH either. moot point a suppose.

anyway the text is from 1875, maybe that has something to do with it?
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All of the stories borrow from each other

For a belief system to succeed it must fit the culture it is introduced in and offer something believers can/will accept.
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One objection I have is the birthdate of each. Christ wasn't born on December 25. His actual birthdate is unknown. The 25th actually used to be a pagan holiday, but Christians, in a sense, took it over and it has stuck. Some believe Christ was actually born in the spring time.
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One objection I have is the birthdate of each. Christ wasn't born on December 25. His actual birthdate is unknown. The 25th actually used to be a pagan holiday, but Christians, in a sense, took it over and it has stuck. Some believe Christ was actually born in the spring time.
excellent point

My mom once read me an article whose authors thought Christ was born on Sept. 11. She read it to me b/c Sept 11 is my b-day (this was before 2001 anyway).
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Krishna was crucified?
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This seems all well and good, but to say Christianity and the International Society for Krishna Consciousness or Hare Krishna, which I'm assuming you're referencing here, are the same is a falsehood. One big problem is the Krishna faiths' plans of salvation. Your salvation depends on the idea of karma. People go through reincarnation in response to karma. (They claim you can be reincarnated as many as 8.4 million times). The caste system, which is used in India, was created by Krishna. Does this sound like a loving faith where what you do in your past life depends your current position in life? Doesn't sound like a very forgiving faith. Also, your salvation depends on how well you follow the spiritual disciplines of ISKC.
Salvation is an act of God's grace. It can't be earned through any human action (Ephesians 2:8-10).
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That's your proof?
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This seems all well and good, but to say Christianity and the International Society for Krishna Consciousness or Hare Krishna, which I'm assuming you're referencing here, are the same is a falsehood. One big problem is the Krishna faiths' plans of salvation. Your salvation depends on the idea of karma. People go through reincarnation in response to karma. (They claim you can be reincarnated as many as 8.4 million times). The caste system, which is used in India, was created by Krishna. Does this sound like a loving faith where what you do in your past life depends your current position in life? Doesn't sound like a very forgiving faith. Also, your salvation depends on how well you follow the spiritual disciplines of ISKC.
Salvation is an act of God's grace. It can't be earned through any human action (Ephesians 2:8-10).
You want to be a scholar, but you really need to understand the fundamental difference between the Krishna group and Hinduism, which is what is "referenced" here. Hinduism is thousands of years old, while the Krishna group is maybe a century old at best. Please understand that Hinduism has as much to with the Krishna group as Christianity has to do with Lyndon LaRouche.
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anyway the text is from 1875, maybe that has something to do with it?
Probably. It depends on the writer. Many times Sanskrit words were transliterated to make it easier for Westerners to understand them
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now i have "my sweet lord" by george harrison in my head. good song though!
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U2 covered that song on their last night in Miami Elevation 12-2-01, U2democrat. Just in case you weren't aware of it.
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