Hewson
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I never once heard "Obama Boys" either.
Isn't it a song by Living Colour?
I never once heard "Obama Boys" either.
If Hilary wins the nomination, I sure hope Bernie at least gives a nice speech in support of her. He has been pretty decent for the most part in the debates and I don't know that he's necessarily taken any real cheap shots. It's more the supporters that have taken to social media to make Hilary look like the worst human of all time.
Obama came across as a leader. Clinton has that aspect to her....but when it comes to charisma, there was no comparison at all. She stood no chance.
I believed Obama could make change happen as President.
I don't believe that with Bernie. If Clinton continues the Obama legacy, that is not a bad thing. We have seen so much progress under him, and just imagine what he could have done without the obstructionists in congress.
With Bernie Bros, it just seems like a bit....naive? That USA will all of a sudden turn into Denmark, or even Canada overnight. Our infrastructure is just too massive, and complex to change right away. The ACA is a step towards single payer. We have pulled out of most of the wars in the Middle East, instead focusing more on drones, and special forces to do the work. Obama has made relations better with the world, something that was destroyed under W.
Bernie has brought some ideas to the forefront of the discussion. I applaud him for that, but his inability to provide real specifics, and complete lack of any interest in Foreign Policy has me behind Clinton.
I'll still vote for him if he's the nominee of course. The real focus should be on getting Hillary or Bernie into the WH so we can get more progressives on the SC.
No one thinks we're going to turn into Denmark overnight. But I'd like to see us make at least some progress. Now I don't see Obama as having spun the wheels like some do. But I do see Clinton as being that. Clinton is to the right of Obama. The only reason I'd vote for Hillary would be because the alternative is worse and because maybe we'll get a decent Supreme Court justice out of it. Even that isn't a foregone conclusion with her, but I'll take my chances when the alternatives are anyone in the GOP.
I don't think even if Hillary is the president, I don't think she can't get that much done with this congress full of obstructive republicans.
I never once heard "Obama Boys" either.
Then i saw Hillary coming out with plans that just plain made more sense to me. AND had the added bonus of possibly passing, or even probably passing.
I don't think even if Hillary is the president, I don't think she can't get that much done with this congress full of obstructive republicans.
There is no downside to taking a far-leftist stance
so get your boy Bernie to get off his ass and take all his enthusiasm and money and help the Democrats win back the Senate.
Oh cmon. You know the minute Sanders leaves the race he will return to irrelevance and go the way of Ron Paul.
Don't you think it's a bit ridiculous that you guys are arguing over this? "Your boy Bernie" sounds so sports team politics. Blah blah blah Bernie Bros, Clintonistas, Obama Boys, PUMA, whatever label you want to slap. Those attempts to label an entire group of people as one are a weak way of attacking a campaign. I'd reserve those labels for something pathetic, like Donald Trump's followers. As for every other campaign, I think it's just weak. Enough already.
Oh cmon. You know the minute Sanders leaves the race he will return to irrelevance and go the way of Ron Paul.
Don't you think it's a bit ridiculous that you guys are arguing over this? "Your boy Bernie" sounds so sports team politics. Blah blah blah Bernie Bros, Clintonistas, Obama Boys, PUMA, whatever label you want to slap. Those attempts to label an entire group of people as one are a weak way of attacking a campaign. I'd reserve those labels for something pathetic, like Donald Trump's followers. As for every other campaign, I think it's just weak. Enough already.
So only one extreme group is deserving of labels?
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Don't you think it's a bit ridiculous that you guys are arguing over this? "Your boy Bernie" sounds so sports team politics. Blah blah blah Bernie Bros, Clintonistas, Obama Boys, PUMA, whatever label you want to slap. Those attempts to label an entire group of people as one are a weak way of attacking............
no, not really. i don't think it's ridiculous, and i think you're focusing a little too much on a small aside. i think these labels, whether a good thing or not, do exist, and are used in political language, so it's not surprising that they're reflected in here as well. though i never heard "Obama Boys" before.
i also don't think Sanders is going to fade into irrelevance. he's accomplished way, way more than Ron Paul, and raised way, way, way more money.
Only something worth disregarding entirely is worth labeling. You fail to listen when you start generalizing and labeling.
I'm okay with failing to listen to the Trump campaign. Because it's a fucking joke. Ted Cruz's campaign is an extreme group... I don't think labeling them is fair either. I still listen to what he has to say. For as much as I think he'd be a worse president than Trump, he's not a joke. Real [scary] ideas come out of his mouth.
Exactly. And in case you haven't noticed there's a population of Bernie supports that's all they do; generalize, label, condescend, and are isolated in their information. They are the left's version of Breitbart followers. Why should I listen to them if I'm not going to listen to Trump's followers?
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Did you honestly just make a point about how 'if they do it, I should do it, too?'
You entirely missed the point. The stereotype of a Trump supporter is a joke, but so is Donald Trump himself.
The stereotype of a Sanders supporter is a joke, but Bernie Sanders isn't a joke. But, you're refusing to take him seriously due to his supposedly condescending supporters. That's just stupid. Not all of his supporters are condescending. If that much is true, and Sanders himself is not a joke, then it's not a negligible decision to generalize.