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Old 04-04-2016, 02:51 PM   #226
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I am feeling that considering current state of republican party, Donald will definitely be the nominee.
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2016 US Presidential Election Thread - VII

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Is Trump still going to be the nominee?

I think he'll be on the ballot, but not so sure he's going to be the nominee.

Who else is going to be the nominee? Cruz? How does he get there?
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if someone in here lives in San Francisco, they are going to tell you about how San Francisco is now more expensive than Manhattan. because this is what people form San Francisco talk about. being more expensive than Manhattan. and that being from San Francisco, despite being more more expensive than Manhattan, says a lot about them as a person. because San Francisco.

San Francisco.


and they're voting for Bernie.
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Id love to be in a city as nice as Melbourne where where $1800 a month gets you a 2-bedroom.
For real.

I was paying $1900 for a 1 bedroom in Toronto 5 years ago. When I lived in NYC, right on the border of Murray Hill and Grammercy Park in that map, it was $3600 for a studio. So...
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such classic.
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Who else is going to be the nominee? Cruz? How does he get there?


Paul Ryan? i don't know, but i do know that if Trump doesn't get the 1237 delegates or whatever it is, they're going to fuck him over at the convention. i mean, i would. they'll lose the election to save the party as he'll then run as a third party.

they also hate Cruz, so they may try to fuck him over too. and they're pretty contemptuous of their actual voters, so they'll fuck them over as well.

i predict lots of fuckery.
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Paul Ryan? i don't know, but i do know that if Trump doesn't get the 1237 delegates or whatever it is, they're going to fuck him over at the convention. i mean, i would. they'll lose the election to save the party as he'll then run as a third party.



they also hate Cruz, so they may try to fuck him over too. and they're pretty contemptuous of their actual voters, so they'll fuck them over as well.



i predict lots of fuckery.

I doubt they will not choose Trump at the convention. They surely won't choose Cruz.
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Paul Ryan? i don't know, but i do know that if Trump doesn't get the 1237 delegates or whatever it is, they're going to fuck him over at the convention. i mean, i would. they'll lose the election to save the party as he'll then run as a third party.

they also hate Cruz, so they may try to fuck him over too. and they're pretty contemptuous of their actual voters, so they'll fuck them over as well.

i predict lots of fuckery.
For a party that is so socially conservative that's a lot of fucking. But yeah, of Trump does not win on the first ballot he will not be the nominee. Remember, the RNC will make the rules for the convention this summer and will make sure someone else "wins".
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I think Ryan ends up being your guy, Trump runs as 3rd party and you have a really low voter turnout


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I questioned the source the minute I saw it. If I recall correctly, it was created by some hardline libertarian? I don't recall. But, the point was to attack Sanders (because Clinton doesn't need to be attacked to be disliked anymore). I suggest actually reading the tax plans, not imagining someone is going to do all the work for you without any sort of drawback.

And no, I don't particularly support Sanders. I'm still very much so undecided between the two (and so I hope Sanders keeps fighting so I continue to have options).





It's not that simple. Everything you've seen so far has made things clear. The old rules don't apply anymore. Sanders flat out refused to say anything shitty about Cuba or Castro on stage in Miami at the Univision debate. Yet, he's gaining on Clinton and his national numbers are unharmed. I do agree that Sanders is totally fresh meat and that could spell disaster. Or, he could be the anti-Trump equivalent. It's all very new. Trump continues to defy logic with his outsiderism. Something Clinton obviously doesn't have. That could be why Trump could beat her. That could be why Sanders is currently plowing Trump in H2H polls.


At the end of the day I don't see Trump winning independents at all. I don't think he will beat Sanders or Clinton, at this point. He's a maniac. While there are many crazies in this country, I think enough people will come around to their senses to defeat him.




I think Sanders will find his way with the black vote for sure, if he made it that far. And as for women and Latinos, they'll show up as anti-Trump, pro democrat voters. Regardless of who is on the ticket. This election will be about anti-Trumpism, and I don't think it's worth debating about on the democratic side as to who you put on the ticket. If Trump can actually win, he can beat either Sanders or Clinton. And it's because our nation is a bigger social mess than it seems. I don't think that's true.
Lots of great points here.

VOX has always seemed really liberal to me, but I should take it with a grain of salt. I'm sure it was slanted to make Sanders look bad.
Either way, I still like Hillary's proposals better, find them much more likely to actually be implemented, and if on top of that, it comes with little to no tax increase, then all the better.

I also agree that this year, everything seems to be out the window as far as what to expect. And the anti Trump will be big. Lots of regular Repubs sitting the whole thing out. Moderate Repubs voting Dem. But a surge in male, white angry support for Trump. Luckily that aint enough.

I like Bernie, i truly do. Was a huge fan of his, but have moved to Hillary. I'm a life-long Dem and there are just too many things piling up with him that don't sit well with me. (That said, i will vote for him in a heartbeat if he's the nom)

I don't think the whole socialist, Castro thing phases Dems very much. Same goes for higher taxes and growth of government. But put it out to low info Repub and indy voters, and I think it's a done deal. They all thought (and still do) that Obama is a socialist Muslim. So this will be a cake walk.
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Matt Yglesias is a grade-A moron, I take anything from Vox with a large grain of salt.
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