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Old 06-10-2016, 11:11 AM   #736
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Honesty and trustworthiness.

Like 3 decades of not paying invoices for work done? Donald so honest.

Still better than leaving CIA names and drone operation information to Guccifer and the Kremlin by using an unsecured email server.


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Old 06-10-2016, 11:12 AM   #737
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So we're justifying honesty based on level of effect?

Jeez what happened to the good ole days where you guys would impeach a president over a blow job cause lying is lying?

And to be fair, Douchebag Donald has never had the opportunity to divulge state secrets yet, because only a group of massive idiots would put him even remotely close to a position where he could do such a thing.
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Warren seems a smart pic. She's loved by the non-misogynist Bernie supporters, and she's proving herself an effective attack dog as skilled at Twitter as the Trump is. She effectively answers the most pressing concern for the American Left -- income inequality -- and being attacked by two women at once is going to drive Donald bonkers and make him say batshit things.
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Still better than leaving CIA names and drone operation information to Guccifer and the Kremlin by using an unsecured email server.


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So are Powell and Rice dishonest and untrustworthy?

Doesn't have much to do with being honest does it?
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Warren seems a smart pic. She's loved by the non-misogynist Bernie supporters, and she's proving herself an effective attack dog as skilled at Twitter as the Trump is. She effectively answers the most pressing concern for the American Left -- income inequality -- and being attacked by two women at once is going to drive Donald bonkers and make him say batshit things.
very well summed up
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very well summed up

Of course this is FB, but the comments to the stories of Warren endorsing her has not gone over well.

Sell out is the general theme.

How she can be against the banks, etc and then endorse the person who's in their pocket....etc etc

Not to say there isn't a point there to be made, but I see it like this.

We've all cringed at Bono and his collaborations with people on the very opposite end of the spectrum, people that most of us "liberals" (quotes cause we may not be according to some) despise.

Compromise is the term that I feel needs to keep being repeated. To get anything done, you do have to set aside some differences. Some good getting done is better than no good


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Of course this is FB, but the comments to the stories of Warren endorsing her has not gone over well.

Sell out is the general theme.

How she can be against the banks, etc and then endorse the person who's in their pocket....etc etc

Not to say there isn't a point there to be made, but I see it like this.

We've all cringed at Bono and his collaborations with people on the very opposite end of the spectrum, people that most of us "liberals" (quotes cause we may not be according to some) despise.

Compromise is the term that I feel needs to keep being repeated. To get anything done, you do have to set aside some differences. Some good getting done is better than no good


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This is what is so infuriating though. Sanders has very successfully sold the notion to the whole country now, that Clinton can't be trusted with Bank/wall st. reform.

Even someone level-headed, and thoughtful seem to just kind of accept it as a truth.

When the truth is that she has voted right along with Sanders on banking reform. Had a hand in Dodd-Frank structure. Now has a plan that is viewed as the most comprehensive and well thought out Wall St. reform plan, that targets not just the banks. Warren herself has praised it.

She has the knowledge to know that Dodd-Frank has the power to break up the banks if need be. And just shouting "break em up!" like Sanders does, really is disingenuous. Sounds great to the crowd, but details are much stickier.

So, to me, the whole attacking of Warren as a sell out, just highlights the absolute brainwash that occurred over these last 10 months. I have friends that I seriously question their stability. Oligarchs and establishment, and Clinton is the most vile horrible person to ever be born. Its sad. While i appreciate sanders bringing her to the left and creating more awareness of progressive issues. I do seriously think he hobbled her with a large group of voters.
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Would bump up the ticket's honesty and trustworthiness.
Haha, good one.

And likeability!
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Of course this is FB, but the comments to the stories of Warren endorsing her has not gone over well.

Sell out is the general theme.
I think these sorts of anecdotal stories don't carry that much weight to be honest. It just depends on who your FB friends are. I haven't seen a single posting suggesting anything to the effect. I've seen quite a few postings from women saying they are tired of the media implying that two women on a ticket isn't balanced. I've seen a few super excited about Warren being in, but not a single one criticizing her in any way. Doesn't mean my experience is any more of a mainstream one than yours, but just goes to show you that FB isn't really an accurate predictor of anything. Other than bitching about whatever new FB design is. Every single time.
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Compromise is the term that I feel needs to keep being repeated. To get anything done, you do have to set aside some differences. Some good getting done is better than no good
This can not be repeated enough.

Insisting that your ideas are the only ones that could possibly be correct and everyone else is wrong is not how democracies work. That's how dictatorships work, actually.

Compromise is not a dirty word.
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Warren seems a smart pic. She's loved by the non-misogynist Bernie supporters, and she's proving herself an effective attack dog as skilled at Twitter as the Trump is. She effectively answers the most pressing concern for the American Left -- income inequality -- and being attacked by two women at once is going to drive Donald bonkers and make him say batshit things.
Plus we'd get our first Native American Veep, and a champion for income equality and lowering tuition
 
just be sure not to bring up her $400K+ salary for teaching one class at Harvard
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2016 US Presidential Election Thread IX

I don't think Professor Pocahontas would be so gauche as to wear a $12,000 Armani jacket.

Like Michelle Obama, I'm sure she shops at Forever 21 like the rest of us girls.
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Haha, good one.



And likeability!

Everybody loves Michael Caine.

Tim Kaine is a goofy looking mofo


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Warren seems a smart pic. She's loved by the non-misogynist Bernie supporters, and she's proving herself an effective attack dog as skilled at Twitter as the Trump is. She effectively answers the most pressing concern for the American Left -- income inequality -- and being attacked by two women at once is going to drive Donald bonkers and make him say batshit things.
I'm a big fan of Warren. I would love to see her as a VP but I wonder if Hillary will instead pick a swing state.


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